Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm not sure what you mean by insight, but Grossman undoubtedly knows the offense better then Cousins.
And maybe Cousins does bring more confidence, I'm hoping he can win the back-up spot outright and become the back-up as a rookie like Tyrod Taylor did last year.

But, I'm refering to actual on the field contributions either through offense, defense or special teams as a rotational or depth player.

Going by the analysis by the ESPN experts, one insight that he provides that Grossman doesn't is progressions. And he also reportedly is the type that speaks up to help and contribute to the team. This will all help on the field and the team as soon as he starts working with the team.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Going by the analysis by the ESPN experts, one insight that he provides that Grossman doesn't is progressions. And he also reportedly is the type that speaks up to help and contribute to the team. This will all help on the field and the team as soon as he starts working with the team.

I'm not sure what they said on ESPN but I disagree that Cousin provides more insight on pass progressions he hasn't even run compared to Rex who's been in the is offense for 3 years. (this is coming from someone that loathes Wrecks mind you)
Also, Griffin is the QB leader of this team.
I'm not saying Cousins isn't a leader but his leadership only matters when he's undercenter, the 3rd string QB isn't a leader.

And again, I was refering to actual on the field contributions.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm not sure what they said on ESPN but I disagree that Cousin provides more insight on pass progressions he hasn't even run compared to Rex who's been in the is offense for 3 years. (this is coming from someone that loathes Wrecks mind you)
Also, Griffin is the QB leader of this team.
I'm not saying Cousins isn't a leader but his leadership only matters when he's undercenter, the 3rd string QB isn't a leader.

And again, I was refering to actual on the field contributions.

Oh my... I don't think I can discuss this with you anymore with what you just said about Rex and his pass progressions being better - even with his familiarity within this offense, but manages to automatically throw 2 interceptions per game. His pass progressions are the worst of any veteran in the league. He's good Rex bad Rex for a reason - if the play goes as expected it's good Rex, if something doesn't go well on a particular play - it's bad Rex.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm not sure what they said on ESPN but I disagree that Cousin provides more insight on pass progressions he hasn't even run compared to Rex who's been in the is offense for 3 years. (this is coming from someone that loathes Wrecks mind you)
Also, Griffin is the QB leader of this team.
I'm not saying Cousins isn't a leader but his leadership only matters when he's undercenter, the 3rd string QB isn't a leader.

And again, I was refering to actual on the field contributions.

Trent Dilfer said that what Cousins does better than RGIII right now is go through progressions. That right now Cousins is probably a better red zone QB than RGIII for that reason.

Rex wasn't mentioned

[30gut]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Oh my... I don't think I can discuss this with you anymore with what you just said about Rex and his pass progressions being better - even with his familiarity within this offense, but manages to automatically throw 2 interceptions per game. His pass progressions are the worst of any veteran in the league. He's good Rex bad Rex for a reason - if the play goes as expected it's good Rex, if something doesn't go well on a particular play - it's bad Rex.

Okay. Then don't discuss it with me.
But when you're not discussing with me do me this favor don't change my statements around about 'Rex and his pass progressions being better'
I responded and disagreed with your statement that Cousins provided more 'insight' on the progressions then Rex.
Rex knows the progressions in this offense he's just not a good QB.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Trent Dilfer said that what Cousins does better than RGIII right now is go through progressions. That right now Cousins is probably a better red zone QB than RGIII for that reason.

Rex wasn't mentioned

That makes a lot more sense.
Cousins comes from a pro-style offense and has more experience with a rhythm passing offense where the drop back footwork is linked to progression reads.

The RZ stuff makes me go hhmmmnnn because Griff adds a whole different element in that area that could help generate TDs.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Okay. Then don't discuss it with me.
But when you're not discussing with me do me this favor don't change my statements around about 'Rex and his pass progressions being better'
I responded and disagreed with your statement that Cousins provided more 'insight' on the progressions then Rex.
Rex knows the progressions in this offense he's just not a good QB.

Anybody that has familiarity of the playbook will KNOW the progressions of a pass play. It's the approach of handling and executing through the pass progressions - that's what appears to give Cousins the advantage and better insight of "pass progessions" over Grossman.