North Carolina passes same-sex marriage ban

[RedskinRat]

John Boswell - Irish Times

The very idea of a Christian homosexual marriage seems incredible. Yet after a twelve year search of Catholic and Orthodox church archives Yale history professor John Boswell has discovered that a type of Christian homosexual “marriage” did exist as late as the 18th century. Contrary to myth, Christianity’s concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has evolved as a concept and as a ritual.

So yet again we see evidence of 'modern' christianity rewriting their tenets to suit the mood. This should prove entertaining for those still engaged in this discussion.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

John Boswell - Irish Times

The very idea of a Christian homosexual marriage seems incredible. Yet after a twelve year search of Catholic and Orthodox church archives Yale history professor John Boswell has discovered that a type of Christian homosexual “marriage” did exist as late as the 18th century. Contrary to myth, Christianity’s concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has evolved as a concept and as a ritual.

So yet again we see evidence of 'modern' christianity rewriting their tenets to suit the mood. This should prove entertaining for those still engaged in this discussion.

So you went back to one article in 1998 with no supporting documents presented to say that gay marriage goes back to the 18th century.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So you went back to one article in 1998 with no supporting documents presented to say that gay marriage goes back to the 18th century.

Yeah, why not? If you bother to follow the bouncing ball you'll find a whole slew of recently written articles and some books.

Just Google it:

Sex and Punishment - Eric Berkowitz

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Yeah, why not? If you bother to follow the bouncing ball you'll find a whole slew of recently written articles and some books.

Just Google it:

Sex and Punishment - Eric Berkowitz

Maybe you can just link the examples or proof of gay marriage that Bidwell found.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Maybe you can just link the examples or proof of gay marriage that Bidwell found.

I'm just about to leave work and I have the day off so I'll attempt to do just that for the sake of the thread. Plus it'll freak my wife out when she sees me researching gay marriage.

[mlmpetert]

FD is right, this was probably the worst example you could have used. Can we have the story around Chrsitian gay marriages that susposedly once existed?

Irish English is definitely different but when i see statement like "Contrary to myth" i got to wonder if we are reading advocacy journalism?

But to echo FD this is from 1998 and is from what appears to be Ireland's most socially liberal newspaper. It also requires a subscription to read and the part you posted isn’t even viewable and is perhaps without proper context.

And in addition of being without supporting documents or specific example(s) we don’t even know who the author is! Plus John Boswell had been dead for 4 or 5 years prior to this being written. So this wasnt some ground breaking news or discovery of his work, but rather an editorial trying to push a point.

Come on man. Its great to share narrative by others that offer interesting perspective that most of us probably woldnt otherwise hear, but don’t pass it off like its factual news you found that’s supporting your argument.