2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[NC_Skins]

[NC_Skins]

I think the game just changed. Mittens got exposed for going after cheap child labor. Such a shiny beacon that our country should look towards!





Whoever taped this was sitting on a gold mine.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

He's only been calling on Congress to pass the American Jobs Act for over a year now. And he actually did speak at length about this during is State of The Union address.

Obama calls on Congress to quickly pass his 'American Jobs Act' - CNN

Jobs act...doesnt do enough. Has a couple good things, but he really hasnt pushed enough and sold it. Talk of stimulus and raising taxes on the rich is what I hear alot of. The raising tax on the wealthy (which I do support) does zero for jobs, like another round of stimulus.

Simpson and Bowles commision had alot good stuff in it, Obama and the congress ignored it.

Our nation tax code needs to be over hauled big time, this is a move with support on both sides and Bernanke and the Fed agree as well. Obama coulda really made an impact if he woulda at least pushed considerations from Simpson and Bowles debt commision and took an active approach at tax reform. Obama sat on his hands too much for me with his approach on the economy and our country's debt.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Our nation tax code needs to be over hauled big time, this is a move with support on both sides and Bernanke and the Fed agree as well. Obama coulda really made an impact if he woulda at least pushed considerations from Simpson and Bowles debt commision and took an active approach at tax reform. Obama sat on his hands too much for me with his approach on the economy and our country's debt.

I want a flate tax,across the board we all pay the same,be it 25,27 or 30 % but we all pay the same %rate.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I want a flate tax,across the board we all pay the same,be it 25,27 or 30 % but we all pay the same %rate.

I dont want a cut and dry flat, but something similar. Just the same rate for everyone wouldnt work.

I do know we need to get the corporate tax rate down below 25%...its just insane where it is now. insane.

[Chico23231]

Alinsky was a genius

[12thMan]

Classic guilt by association. President Obama never mentioned Alinksy in either of his memoirs, but te SlinginSammy has concluded, along with some on the right, that this man Alinsky is a boogeyman. I would think if this guy was such an influence he'd at least give him a quick shout out in one of his books.

As with all conspiracy theories, the Alinsky-Obama link rests on a kernel of truth. For three years in the mid-1980s, Obama worked for the Developing Communities Project, a group on Chicago’s South Side whose tactics — meeting with displaced steelworkers and marginalized public housing residents — were inspired by Alinsky. So radical.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Classic guilt by association. President Obama never mentioned Alinksy in either of his memoirs, but te SlinginSammy has concluded, along with some on the right, that this man Alinsky is a boogeyman. I would think if this guy was such an influence he'd at least give him a quick shout out in one of his books.

or maybe write a chapter for the book “After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois,”

Amazon.com: After Alinsky: Community Organizing...

As with all conspiracy theories, the Alinsky-Obama link rests on a kernel of truth. For three years in the mid-1980s, Obama worked for the Developing Communities Project, a group on Chicago’s South Side whose tactics — meeting with displaced steelworkers and marginalized public housing residents — were inspired by Alinsky. So radical.

- Obama first learned Alinsky’s rules in the 1980s, when Alinskyite radicals with the Chicago-based Alinsky group Gamaliel Foundation recruited, hired, trained and paid him as a community organizer in South Side Chicago. (Gamaliel’s website expressly states it grew out of the Alinsky movement.)
• Gamaliel board member John McKnight, a hard-core student of Alinsky, penned a letter for Obama to help him get into Harvard Law School.
• Obama took a break from his Harvard studies to travel to Los Angeles for eight days of intense training at Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation.
• Obama also taught Alinsky’s “Power Analysis” methods at the University of Chicago.
• “Obama learned his lesson well,” said David Alinsky, son of the late socialist.
Son sees father's handiwork in convention - The Boston Globe

A one time meeting between George Romney and Alinsky certainly doesn't grant George or Mitt Obama's stunning ALinsky credentials.

[saden1]

I think what SS3 and the folks he pals around with are saying is that talking to Alinksy can infect your thinking process. It is best to say away from people with a strong jedi force because they can trick you and manipulate you.


...also it can be mathematically proven that the associations of Romney are not reflexive while that of Obama are.

[Dirtbag59]

Great speech by Romney. Also Marco Rubio with a very good speech say one gaffe.

"Let’s make sure they write that we did our part. That we chose more government instead of more freedom."

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I think the game just changed. Mittens got exposed for going after cheap child labor. Such a shiny beacon that our country should look towards!





Whoever taped this was sitting on a gold mine.

This has been out for days. Not sure how big of a deal it is. I think it ought to be.

[hooskins]

Lets take a look at those numbers after the DNC, or few weeks after that.

There is always a slight bump after each respective NC, that soon goes away.

[Chico23231]

I wonder how many times you would hear the word "cult" from the right if the Democratic nominee was the Mormon and the gop candidate was a protestant/catholic. A friend and I spoke how this has barely been mentioned, think it shows the ethics of each sides' campaign approach. Funny to think about how the right tried to call Obama a Muslim just last election.

[saden1]

It's hard to make the case that we're not better off with these types of arguments:

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

It's hard to make the case that we're not better off with these types of arguments:

Wow, an honest person running for the WH. Obama is like the past Redskin mgrs. Yes he started with a bad situation but he has done very little to make it any better.