2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree with you,I was mad at the education segment of the debate ,Romney say Mass has the best schools...nope....
Newsweek's Top 20 High Schools: Northeast - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

only one high school in the top 20 of the northeast and that's out on the Cape.

He was talking about education in general not school by school.

State Education Rankings: The Best And Worst For Math And Science

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I agree with you,I was mad at the education segment of the debate ,Romney say Mass has the best schools...nope....
Newsweek's Top 20 High Schools: Northeast - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

only one high school in the top 20 of the northeast and that's out on the Cape.

odds are good that Romney was talking about a survey that's more accurate than anything you could pull out of your *** as usual. but you didn't consider that did you?

edit: and I see firstdown found an example above. thanks fd.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Nobody's talking about the debate yet?

To me, Obama fell flat tonight. So much so it was almost a little painful for me. I'm hoping he'll go in for the kill next debate because boy, was that rough.

It seemed like Obama was not that interested in being there. Debates are more about selling yourself over your ideas, people tend to get lost in all the numbers and issues that both candidates usually bring up. I was a bit surprised about his demeanor.

Romneys problem is he needs to, for lack of a better way of explaining it, appear more human. Not exactly sure if he accomplished that as much as he needed but his demeanor seemed better than Obama's.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Nobody's talking about the debate yet?

To me, Obama fell flat tonight. So much so it was almost a little painful for me. I'm hoping he'll go in for the kill next debate because boy, was that rough.

Yes he did,got to admit it...he did a piss poor job.Yet there is just something slimey about Romney ,like a used car salesman.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

It seemed like Obama was not that interested in being there. Debates are more about selling yourself over your ideas, people tend to get lost in all the numbers and issues that both candidates usually bring up. I was a bit surprised about his demeanor.

Romneys problem is he needs to, for lack of a better way of explaining it, appear more human. Not exactly sure if he accomplished that as much as he needed but his demeanor seemed better than Obama's.

Agree with all this.

[imaskin4life]

Well its not going to get any easier for the president because now he has to deal with this video coming to the surface:

Key & Peele: Obama - The College Years -...

[Gtothearry]

Obama needs to come hard in the next debate. He had his ass handed to him tonight.

If this continues through the next 2 debates I know which candidate I will be voting for.

I personally didn't care for Obama coming out and saying "I had 5 seconds until you interrupted me". Just go on like each candidate did for the majority of the entire debate. No reason to come across as an Ass.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

Obama needs to come hard in the next debate. He had his ass handed to him tonight.

If this continues through the next 2 debates I know which candidate I will be voting for.

I personally didn't care for Obama coming out and saying "I had 5 seconds until you interrupted me". Just go on like each candidate did for the majority of the entire debate. No reason to come across as an Ass.

Don't think he did,he was playing by the rules of the debate,next time cut off Romney and say hell with the rules.

[Chico23231]

Mitt 1 Obama 0

It wasnt even close, Obama didnt look prepared. Al Sharpton and Rachel Madow were so mad on MSNBC after the debate, it was hilarious. I woulda loved to see a Smackdown thread on that debate last night. Obama better tighten his belt and bring it next time.

Bad news is all the pressure is now on Biden for next week, which is never good.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Mitt 1 Obama 0

It wasnt even close, Obama didnt look prepared. Al Sharpton and Rachel Madow were so mad on MSNBC after the debate, it was hilarious. I woulda loved to see a Smackdown thread on that debate last night. Obama better tighten his belt and bring it next time.

Bad news is all the pressure is now on Biden for next week, which is never good.

You called it pre-debate, well done. This was far better than I could've even scripted it. Great job to MR gettin' it done....Romney style.

Ryan will do the same to Biden next week.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Mitt 1 Obama 0

It wasnt even close, Obama didnt look prepared. Al Sharpton and Rachel Madow were so mad on MSNBC after the debate, it was hilarious. I woulda loved to see a Smackdown thread on that debate last night. Obama better tighten his belt and bring it next time.

Bad news is all the pressure is now on Biden for next week, which is never good.

Biden should do great. LMAO

Joe Biden: Middle Class "Buried The Last FOUR...

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Don't think he did,he was playing by the rules of the debate,next time cut off Romney and say hell with the rules.

Obama spoke for 4 minutes longer then Romney did without saying much. So, I can't say Obama played by the so called rules.

From the past presidential debates I've grown to expect interjections considering it is a debate after all. If a candidate isn't able to counter effectively with extra speaking time then it sounds like "blah,blah,blah".

[12thMan]

President Obama was off last night. No other way to put it. Romney won, Obama lost.

Two more debates to go and a jobs report tomorrow.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

President Obama was off last night. No other way to put it. Romney won, Obama lost.

Two more debates to go and a jobs report tomorrow.

Being fiery doesn't win elections, making the voters feel you care about them and their lives does. Obama left one too many unused trump-cards at the table though I think Obama did a good job explaining his policies and positions vs Romney's.

There are 3 more quarters left in the game and the deck is still hot.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Being fiery doesn't win elections, making the voters feel you care about them and their lives does. Obama left one too many unused trump-cards at the table though I think Obama did a good job explaining his policies and positions vs Romney's.

There are 3 more quarters left in the game and the deck is still hot.

I never thought I would say this.....but I actually feel a bit bad for Obama and the way the media wings of the DNC (msnbc, etc.) are ready to throw him under the bus. You could see it everywhere last night and this AM. They're setting up to dump an election loss squarely on him and trash the guy because he can't defend the last 3 1/2 years (I say policies, others will say bad situation, folks in the middle would say both),his far left ideology (yes I know that's a debatable point), and he can't live up to the diety-like aspirations the clowns (yes, Chris Matthews I mean you) in the left wing media put on him.

These two-faced, opportunistic, back-stabbers have carried the water and covered for Obama since 2007. Now they're ready to throw him to the wolves and cover their own hind-quarters....and this is before any real polls have come out suggesting a drastic shift in nationwide polls. Shameful. But, Obama has taken advantage of these useful idiots all this time also. Moral of the story, be careful who you make your bed with.