2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Daseal

One question for everyone -- is there any use for the electoral college anymore? Is there any reason we don't just do the popular vote? I understand the electoral college when we were unable to quickly and efficiently count votes and report the numbers up so getting a majority and giving electoral votes made sense. Now we have the technology and ability to let every vote count evenly. Let a vote for Obama count in Texas, and a vote for Mitt count in New Hampshire. Am I missing why the electoral college is important?

Its so we don't have a few large states picking our president and holding all the power. The electoral college has never been about counting the votes its about giving all states a say in who is elected.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Its so we don't have a few large states picking our president and holding all the power. The electoral college has never been about counting the votes its about giving all states a say in who is elected.

Why does size of a state matter. Shouldn't every person be counted equally?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Why does size of a state matter. Shouldn't every person be counted equally?

If you look at population of CA, TX, NY, Fl, IL, they have more population then the other 52 states combined. If you were a politician where would you spend your money and which states would you pass favorable legislation?

States - Ranked by Size & Population - ipl2 Stately Knowledge: Facts about the United States

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If you look at population of CA, TX, NY, Fl, IL, they have more population then the other 52 states combined. If you were a politician where would you spend your money and which states would you pass favorable legislation?

States - Ranked by Size & Population - ipl2 Stately Knowledge: Facts about the United States

If anything we'd see more of a swing. Repubs and democrats don't really have a reason to go to California. It's not like they hit a lot of stops in South Dakota. Wouldn't it be better if more of the resources happen for most of the people? I'll drop it now, just seems silly to me that we don't do the popular vote.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If you look at population of CA, TX, NY, Fl, IL, they have more population then the other 52 states combined. If you were a politician where would you spend your money and which states would you pass favorable legislation?

States - Ranked by Size & Population - ipl2 Stately Knowledge: Facts about the United States

There are actually 57 states, fyi

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[NC_Skins]

Nah, businesses don't need to be regulated from doing shit like this.

David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Nah, businesses don't need to be regulated from doing shit like this.

David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE)

Makes sense to me. Who the hell do you think takes the hit when big business gets hit with higher taxes, higher overhead, higher cost, slow sales, etc... First people hit are employees. That's one reason Mitt has said Obama care will hurt employment which he is correct.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Makes sense to me. Who the hell do you think takes the hit when big business gets hit with higher taxes, higher overhead, higher cost, slow sales, etc... First people hit are employees. That's one reason Mitt has said Obama care will hurt employment which he is correct.

So when taxes go up on business the companies don't pass that on to the public?wow....how nice of them.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So when taxes go up on business the companies don't pass that on to the public?wow....how nice of them.

Depends, I don't set the price for my product so I have no choice there. If a company decides to increase their prices they also risk loosing business to other company that choose to cut back on employees to keep prices down.

[Chico23231]

Stacey Dash Twitter Backlash After Voicing Support of Romney | Work + Money - Yahoo! Shine

crazy how hateful some people are.

Man, i would crush that ass

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Stacey Dash Twitter Backlash After Voicing Support of Romney | Work + Money - Yahoo! Shine

crazy how hateful some people are.

Man, i would crush that ass

I'd 2nd that.

[firstdown]

Even Big Bird rejects Obama. LMAO

Feathers were ruffled on Sesame Street on Tuesday when the Obama campaign launched a campaign ad starring Big Bird.

The new spot, which airs on cable networks, mocks Mitt Romney for saying during last week’s debate that he would cut public funding to the Public Broadcasting Service – even though he likes Big Bird.

But Sesame Workshop – the nonpartisan nonprofit behind Sesame Street – wasn’t pleased. In a statement, Sesame Workshop objected to the ad: “We have approved no campaign ads, and, as is our general practice, have requested that both campaigns remove Sesame Street characters and trademarks from their campaign materials.”

[Slingin Sammy 33]

ObamaPhone!!!! First Green Energy payoffs to Obama bundlers and donors, now the ObamaPhone scam. Maybe the SEIU should'nt have been paying idiots who unwittingly aired more Obama dirty laundry...

Slim Pickings: World’s Richest Man Gets Richer Supplying ‘Obamaphones’ to Poor | Fox News

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

ObamaPhone!!!! First Green Energy payoffs to Obama bundlers and donors, now the ObamaPhone scam. Maybe the SEIU should'nt have been paying idiots who unwittingly aired more Obama dirty laundry...

Slim Pickings: World’s Richest Man Gets Richer Supplying ‘Obamaphones’ to Poor | Fox News

You realize that this really gained traction under Bush, right? The idea has been around since the Reagan era. They have to make less than $15,000 a year to be eligible and they get a whopping HOUR worth of minutes a month. That's not a situation to be envious of -- add in the fact that these are funded by a non-profit entity under the FCC and does not use tax money at all.

FactCheck.org : The Obama Phone?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Daseal

You realize that this really gained traction under Bush, right? The idea has been around since the Reagan era. They have to make less than $15,000 a year to be eligible and they get a whopping HOUR worth of minutes a month. That's not a situation to be envious of -- add in the fact that these are funded by a non-profit entity under the FCC and does not use tax money at all.

FactCheck.org : The Obama Phone?

Your right but totally wrong:

While not technically a tax, the program is funded by mandatory fees tacked on to consumers' phone bills, then disbursed through the Federal Communications Commission and states.

Read more: Carlos Slim, World’s Richest Man, Gets Richer Supplying ‘Obamaphones’ to Poor | Fox News