2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

If you are too tempered you are weak and an ineffective debator and if you are too fiery you are an ass. I am of the opinion that politicians should speak freely without getting personal. That means call out the BS, the retardedness, and the flip flopping.

Ryan is full of shit and I mean that nicely.

Just posted this a bit earlier on fb. Dems are weak and pushovers but when they grow a pair and don't BS they are rude?

Huge hypocrisy.

I love it. Democrats need to take it to the opponent with a freaking sledgehammer. I'm sick of being pushed around by the far right. Durbin had it spot on: the only reason repubs are talking about bidens smiling or interrupting is because Ryan was destroyed in all other areas.

[Giantone]

Biden by a mile,Ryan had a few good shots but all in all Biden made him look like a newbe!

[lockeroomman]

Originally Posted by giantone

biden by a mile,ryan had a few good shots but all in all biden made him look like a newbe!

lol

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Just posted this a bit earlier on fb. Dems are weak and pushovers but when they grow a pair and don't BS they are rude?

Huge hypocrisy.

I love it. Democrats need to take it to the opponent with a freaking sledgehammer. I'm sick of being pushed around by the far right. Durbin had it spot on: the only reason repubs are talking about bidens smiling or interrupting is because Ryan was destroyed in all other areas.

No. It is b/c he was being an ass. A complete and total ass. If the demeanors had been switched, all we would be hearing about is Ryan's unprofessionalism, blah blah blah. Sorry, you can deny it or revel in it but the bottom line is as to demeanor Biden was everything bad in a politician. My wife, a died in the wool Democrat who wouldn't vote Republican if her life depended on it, said one point "Wow. He just doesn't know how to be an adult does he?".

Biden was unprofessional and uncivil and did nothing to persuade fence sitters "Hey, let's vote for this guy!".

Ryan was evasive. He was professional and strong on presentation. BUT - I counted at least three separate direct questions, he simply failed to answer. lt's the kind of thing that makes me yell at the screen "It's a simple question - JUST ANSWER IT!"

I thought they both blew - big time - the final question concerning negativity in campaigns and the soldier "desparing for America". I turned to my wife and said, "Well, that's a softball", because I was expecting to hear two puff pieces on why America is great and admitting the negativity but hoping we could get past it to build a better place for the future blah blah blah. Instead, they both take the opportunity to say what a horrible America it will be if the other guy gets elected. Sad. Just sad.

All in all. Content wise it was what we expected and nothing new. Those of you claiming Ryan looked like a newb, I respectfully disagree. He looked like a polished politician - with all the good and ill that implies. Biden on the other hand, to me, looked like an unpolished politician - with all the good and ill that implies.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No. It is b/c he was being an ass. A complete and total ass. If the demeanors had been switched, all we would be hearing about is Ryan's unprofessionalism, blah blah blah. Sorry, you can deny it or revel in it but the bottom line is as to demeanor Biden was everything bad in a politician. My wife, a died in the wool Democrat who wouldn't vote Republican if her life depended on it, said one point "Wow. He just doesn't know how to be an adult does he?".

Biden was unprofessional and uncivil and did nothing to persuade fence sitters "Hey, let's vote for this guy!".

Ryan was evasive. He was professional and strong on presentation. BUT - I counted at least three separate direct questions, he simply failed to answer. lt's the kind of thing that makes me yell at the screen "It's a simple question - JUST ANSWER IT!"

I thought they both blew - big time - the final question concerning negativity in campaigns and the soldier "desparing for America". I turned to my wife and said, "Well, that's a softball", because I was expecting to hear two puff pieces on why America is great and admitting the negativity but hoping we could get past it to build a better place for the future blah blah blah. Instead, they both take the opportunity to say what a horrible America it will be if the other guy gets elected. Sad. Just sad.

All in all. Content wise it was what we expected and nothing new. Those of you claiming Ryan looked like a newb, I respectfully disagree. He looked like a polished politician - with all the good and ill that implies. Biden on the other hand, to me, looked like an unpolished politician - with all the good and ill that implies.

I give JR his seal of approval on this one



well said sir.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Just posted this a bit earlier on fb. Dems are weak and pushovers but when they grow a pair and don't BS they are rude?

Huge hypocrisy.

I love it. Democrats need to take it to the opponent with a freaking sledgehammer. I'm sick of being pushed around by the far right. Durbin had it spot on: the only reason repubs are talking about bidens smiling or interrupting is because Ryan was destroyed in all other areas.

They want to have their cake, eat it, and then have yours too. Unbelievable. They can go suck a dck and choke on it.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

They want to have their cake, eat it, and then have yours too. Unbelievable. They can go suck a dck and choke on it.

But the GOP is getting the "angry" vote

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

But the GOP is getting the "angry" vote

Well, they sure aren't getting the Latino, Black, Women, Jewish,and Muslim vote so I suppose they are.

Hopefully the Catholics come through with some anger and send Lord Obama packing.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Well, they sure aren't getting the Latino, Black, Women, Jewish,and Muslim vote so I suppose they are.

Hopefully the Catholics come through with some anger and send Lord Obama packing.

May want to check the polls on the women and Jewish votes.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

They want to have their cake, eat it, and then have yours too. Unbelievable. They can go suck a dck and choke on it.

Speaking from experience?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by saden1

They want to have their cake, eat it, and then have yours too. Unbelievable. They can go suck a dck and choke on it.

Aside from your being wrong (as usual) on substance.... Biden took even more of his opponent's time than Obama did, and made himself look like an out-of-touch angry old geezer in the process.....

Dude, as a fellow redskins fan, please grow up. Your posts are becoming more and more juvenile.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Aside from your being wrong (as usual) on substance.... Biden took even more of his opponent's time than Obama did, and made himself look like an out-of-touch angry old geezer in the process.....
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LOL wrong,that's the one thing he didn't look like.Obama should have been more like Biden against Mittens.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He did'nt have to be ,Palin is stupid...Ryan is not,just young

Way to miss the point about Biden's style.

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL wrong,that's the one thing he didn't look like.Obama should have been more like Biden against Mittens.

LOL, that's exactly the one thing Biden looked like. An angry old geezer. Thanks for confirming it.

So Obama should be rude, stupid, angry, and yell at the moderator? Sure, I'd rather see a policy debate, but let Obama pull a Biden next debate.

(paraphrased)
R - "We can cut taxes and grow the economy."
B - "NEVER been done!"
R - "It's been done a couple times, JFK..."
B - "SO NOW YOU'RE JFK?!?!? HA! HA! HA!"

Let's see if that keeps going over well. It was funny when Biden did it, right?

[CRedskinsRule]

Biden's demeanor and interruptions were embarrassing. I didn't watch the first debate, and have for the most part given up on the political system, but for me, just off that debate, I may end up voting for Romney(not that it would matter much in Md).

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Biden's demeanor and interruptions were embarrassing. I didn't watch the first debate, and have for the most part given up on the political system, but for me, just off that debate, I may end up voting for Romney(not that it would matter much in Md).

So much for principles and independence...