2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Presidents can't pass laws, only Congress.

Have you not paid attention to anything the GOP has done over the past 3-1/2 years? It's without a doubt they've gone out of their way to gridlock anything the President wants done. Budget? Nope. Health Care? Nope. They few things he did manage is because of him scratching their backs by extending the tax cuts for the rich. They want to tank the entire economy just so they can point the finger at the man in charge and say "It's his fault!!"

I think your analogy falls flat. The Republican House has passed budgets. It's the Democratic Senate that has consistently failed to pass anything of their own, during the Obama administration.

Carrying this "logic" further", were Democrats in Congress were responsible for the economy under Bush II? Were Newt Gingrich and the Republicans responsible for the good economy lasting as long as it did under Clinton? Or are you just trying to say that opposition to the current President automatically equals "tank the entire economy"?

[Giantone]

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[NC_Skins]

Mitt Romney Booed At NAACP Convention For Saying He'd Repeal Obamacare (VIDEO)

Wrong speech, wrong place Mitt. GG.

[saden1]

Whoa...when did he become an Obama surrogate or was he just playing dumb all this time?

[RedskinRat]

Missed this on the 4th, but still relevant:

Hot Air Day is upon us. On July 4 hot air will spew forth all over the country as dignitaries deliver homilies to our “freedom and democracy” and praise “our brave troops” who are protecting our freedom by “killing them over there before they come over here.”

Not a single one of these speeches will contain one word of truth. No speaker will lament the death of the US Constitution or urge his audience to action to restore the only document that protects their liberty. No speaker will acknowledge that in the 21st century the Bush/Obama Regime, with the complicity of the Department of Justice, federal courts, Congress, presstitute media, law schools, bar associations, and an insouciant public have murdered the Constitution in the name of the “war on terror.”

As in medieval times, American citizens can be thrown into dungeons and never accounted for. No evidence or charges need be presented to a court. No trial is required, and no conviction.

As in tyrannies, US citizens can be executed at the sole discretion of the despot in the Oval Office, who sits there drawing up lists of people to be murdered.

Protestors exercising their constitutionally guaranteed rights to freedom of speech and freedom of association are attacked by armed police, beaten, tasered, tear-gassed, pepper sprayed, and arrested.

Whistleblowers who report the government’s crimes are prosecuted despite the statute that protects them.

I'd disagree with the Medieval times comment and his position on Manning but overall I like the attitude.

[saden1]

Apparently it is possible to be Sole Stockholder, Chairman of the Board, CEO, and President and not be responsible for the actions of a company. Either I'm really fcking stupid or someone thinks I'm really fcking stupid.

Mitt Romney stayed at Bain 3 years longer than he stated - Boston.com

It's also possible to put money in a blind trust and not be responsible for how an IRA managed to be valued 100 million.


Apparently being able to say "I don't know" and "I am not responsible" are the mark of a leader these days.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Apparently it is possible to be Sole Stockholder, Chairman of the Board, CEO, and President and not be responsible for the actions of a company. Either I'm really fcking stupid or someone thinks I'm really fcking stupid.

Mitt Romney stayed at Bain 3 years longer than he stated - Boston.com

It's also possible to put money in a blind trust and not be responsible for how an IRA managed to be valued 100 million.


Apparently being able to say "I don't know" and "I am not responsible" are the mark of a leader these days.

Shame on the Obama campaign for these accusations, shame on Obama for not rupudiating them, and shame on you for going pew, pew , pew all over the board and not doing your homework.
Do Bain SEC documents suggest Mitt Romney is a criminal? - The Washington Post

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Shame on the Obama campaign for these accusations, shame on Obama for not rupudiating them, and shame on you for going pew, pew , pew all over the board and not doing your homework.
Do Bain SEC documents suggest Mitt Romney is a criminal? - The Washington Post

I'm not sure anything criminal went on (I am sure Obama's A team is on truthiness of it all) but I truly believe the whole mess needs to be clarified. It boggles the mind to think that a man who wore all the possible executive hats didn't know and wasn't involved in the happenings of his company. That's just not leadership.

Plus it just came out that he signed a bunch of SEC filings during that time and made a statement under oath that said "[T]here were a number of social trips and business trips that brought me back to Massachusetts, board meetings, Thanksgiving and so forth." Bottom line, his he seems to be absent a lot when it suits him or he thinks we are absent minded.


Mitt Romney’s Shifting Bain Story | Politicker

“Romney, who was CEO of Bain Capital until 2001, has repeatedly said he was on leave from the company in 1994, when strikes erupted at Ampad’s now- closed Indiana paper plant, and again in 2001, when GST Steel, a Kansas City plant, laid off workers and closed,” wrote Globe reporter Yvonne Abraham.

I don't know...I wasn't there...I left...I'm on leave...It's a blind trust, blah blah blah...It all seems quite convenient but shit like this doesn't go away easily. You should just pay me now!

[firstdown]

So Mr Obama decides to vist out area today and from what I have heard there is a 10 mile back up because they closed several main roads. Friday what timing.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So Mr Obama decides to vist out area today and from what I have heard there is a 10 mile back up because they closed several main roads. Friday what timing.

Not to mention the $$$$ the City of VB spent on prettying up Green Run H.S. for the campaign stop.

[saden1]

Man, she's pretty and smart which makes for a pretty deadly attack dog...scary.

Dem aide on Bain: If Romney wasn't in charge, who was? - CBS News


The full episode is even more deadly...the guy working for Romney is not having a good time that's for sure.

July 15: Cutter, Madden, Ryan & more - CBS News Video

[Slingin Sammy 33]

This says it all, straight from Obama:

Obama to business owners: 'You didn't build that' | Fox News

To this I say BS. The gov't doesn't put in 50+ hour (many put in 60-70 hours) workweeks. The gov't didn't give me travel vouchers for my family to be with me when it was necessary to be on the road for work. The gov't doesn't study for you to make strong academic achievement. The gov't doesn't come up with inventive or more productive ideas (sometimes defense R & D has made breakthoughs....but Obama and the Ds are ready to hammer defense spending). The gov't doesn't guarantee investment risks (unless its Solyndra or another Obama bundler). The gov't certainly has never bailed me out of anything. All the while folks who have worked and sacrificed for their own success are mandated to pay an even higher percentage of taxes????

I paid a hell of alot more for those roads than most, is there a special HTP (Highly Taxed Person) lane so I don't need to sit in traffic? BTW most roads are funded either by state funds or the FHWA which is funded primarily from gasoline taxes. As far as education goes that comment is complete BS as only 6% of education funding comes from the feds and it comes with a lot more strings than it's worth. The internet was originally a comm system funded by DOD between universities.....the mass expansion was funded by private investments and I pay monthly for my internet service.

I wish Obama and the Dems would just change their party name to Democratic Socialist Party and be who they really are.

[Giantone]

Hit the link for the 35 questions

35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes

Unfortunately for the Romney Campaign, the slew of TV interviews did little to satisfy the media. In times of crisis, a strong candidate will come up with answers that satisfy the basic questions surrounding the controversy and will make people want to move on to another subject. Romney, however, could not seem to come up with basic messages that resolved the controversies. Many of his answers seemed evasive or overly legalistic. The biggest problem for Romney is that all of his interviews have only increased the questions that political observers, voters and the media have regarding the subject of Bain Capital.
Specifically, Romney is going to have to answer the following 35 questions before this issue subsides:

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Hit the link for the 35 questions

35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes

Unfortunately for the Romney Campaign, the slew of TV interviews did little to satisfy the media. In times of crisis, a strong candidate will come up with answers that satisfy the basic questions surrounding the controversy and will make people want to move on to another subject. Romney, however, could not seem to come up with basic messages that resolved the controversies. Many of his answers seemed evasive or overly legalistic. The biggest problem for Romney is that all of his interviews have only increased the questions that political observers, voters and the media have regarding the subject of Bain Capital.
Specifically, Romney is going to have to answer the following 35 questions before this issue subsides:

Why aswer the questions when fact check can answer the question?

FactCheck.org : Romney’s Bain Years: New Evidence, Same Conclusion

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Hit the link for the 35 questions

35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes

“”If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from….You make a big election about small things,” ” – Barack Obama 08/28/08


All these questions have been answered in the WaPo link and FD's Politifact link. The Dems in MA tried the lame Bain attacks when Romney was vetted for Gov. Shall we revisit Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, etc.