A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I don't understand this notion of the 'right' playcall.
Nor the idea that you can quantify Kyle's or any coaches number of 'right' playcalls especially by percentages.
Does Kyle need to improve? Sure.

But, if there's one thing I feel fairly certain about it Griff's fit in this offense though.

I feel less confident about Helu/Royster/Hightower getting more then 400 carries this season.

Well, the "right" playcall could best be described as one taking the defense by surprise and/or exploiting the D's scheme and positioning. I think Kyle, on average, has gotten it right so far about a third of the time. To begin, he's been pass-heavy (about 60/40 I believe) even though we didn't have the personnel, namely a solid passer, to justify a lopsided air attack. The ratio should have been flipped toward a running game, which btw is what Mike's offense would have looked like.

Second, Kyle's choice of run and pass plays has been quite poor. Most games he sticks to just a few run plays, and if they aren't working he abandons the run quickly. Even more bizarre in some games he abandoned the run even when it was working...? And his air attack mostly relies on the passer leading his target to be effective, again despite the fact we haven't had a passer capable of doing just that very well.

You can certainly make the argument Griffin will fit Kyle's system perfectly, but that doesn't mean it's the perfect system. Savvy?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well, the "right" playcall could best be described as one taking the defense by surprise and/or exploiting the D's scheme and positioning. I think Kyle, on average, has gotten it right so far about a third of the time.

I disagree with how you characterize the 'right' playcall and the idea that you can qauntify the number of 'right' playcalls vs 'wrong' playcalls.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on that part...

Originally Posted by The Goat

To begin, he's been pass-heavy (about 60/40 I believe) even though we didn't have the personnel, namely a solid passer, to justify a lopsided air attack. The ratio should have been flipped toward a running game, which btw is what Mike's offense would have looked like.

Agree 100%.

Second, Kyle's choice of run and pass plays has been quite poor. Most games he sticks to just a few run plays, and if they aren't working he abandons the run quickly. Even more bizarre in some games he abandoned the run even when it was working...? And his air attack mostly relies on the passer leading his target to be effective, again despite the fact we haven't had a passer capable of doing just that very well.

I agree and have echoed your sentiments here for awhile I started a thread that chronicles Kyle's pass 1st nature:

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...-lament-4.html

I've been saying that Kyle's running game lacked diversity and commitment.
Both traits are decidedly atypical for this offense (Texans/Houston) and for Mike Shanahan himself.

E.g. lack of diversity:
o didn't start running the toss/pitch play til Week 12 (IIRC) yet the toss/pitch has been a staple of this offense going back to Terrell Davis in Denver.

o didn't use the trap very much all year except for the Cardinals game (maybe its because Kory was usually the pulling guard on there plays?)
click on this video and witness the successful use of the inside trap w/ Kory as the pulling guard:
Cardinals vs Redskins 2011 :: RoyHelusRuns.mp4 video by Txredskins44 - Photobucket

You can certainly make the argument Griffin will fit Kyle's system perfectly, but that doesn't mean it's the perfect system. Savvy?

We're getting waaaaayyyy off topic, but your above statement is patently obvious to the extent that I don't even know why you posted it because I've never expressed the idea that Kyle's system was anywhere close to being a perfect system.