NFLPA Files Collusion Lawsuit Against NFL, Owners

[SBXVII]

#1- Its easy in hind sight to say the NFLPA knew or should have known, but there always is the possibility they didn't, just like some believe the possibility the NFL didn't collude.

#2- whether they agreed or not seems to be whether they had enough (even if it's circumstantial or not) evidence to file a law suit.

So the NFLPA is faced wih turning down the deal with the NFL... What do they have to bring a law suit? The NFL maybe didn't even tell them which teams were going to be punished just that two teams needed punished. So who do they contact about collusion if they don't even know who was being punished? Again they had no evidence.

The NFLPA agrees to the punishments, learns who failed to follow the agreement, has proof of it because Mara and Goodell opened their idiot mouths, and the fact two teams were punished for not following an agreement. There's your proof.

Otherwise they had nothing but behind the scenes communication not recorded that no one nor judge would believe.

[HoopheadVII]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

#1- Its easy in hind sight to say the NFLPA knew or should have known, but there always is the possibility they didn't, just like some believe the possibility the NFL didn't collude.

#2- whether they agreed or not seems to be whether they had enough (even if it's circumstantial or not) evidence to file a law suit.

So the NFLPA is faced wih turning down the deal with the NFL... What do they have to bring a law suit? The NFL maybe didn't even tell them which teams were going to be punished just that two teams needed punished. So who do they contact about collusion if they don't even know who was being punished? Again they had no evidence.

The NFLPA agrees to the punishments, learns who failed to follow the agreement, has proof of it because Mara and Goodell opened their idiot mouths, and the fact two teams were punished for not following an agreement. There's your proof.

Otherwise they had nothing but behind the scenes communication not recorded that no one nor judge would believe.

So, basically you think DeMaurice Smith is playing chess while Goodell is playing checkers?

Is that what you're talking yourself into?

Next question, how exactly do you think the salary cap reallocation letter would read without naming which teams' caps were modified?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by HoopheadVII

So, basically you think DeMaurice Smith is playing chess while Goodell is playing checkers?

Is that what you're talking yourself into?

Next question, how exactly do you think the salary cap reallocation letter would read without naming which teams' caps were modified?

Wow, you got this all figured out. How about the NFL never told the NFLPA who was being punished until after they were politely reminded they couldn't file the law suit and when they agreed to allow the punishement then the paperwork slides across the table with the team names. The $$ amount of the reallocation was probably discussed even before the punishment was. Get the NFLPA to be thinking along the lines of finding a way to keep the $$ were they were instead of picking up a huge loss. Then when the NFL comes out with "Oh, we'd like to punish a couple of teams for competative balance and we can use that money to keep the CAP were it's at..... would you agree to that?"

No one knows how it went down in the meeting. No one knows what all was mentioned other then Goodell and DSmith. What upsets me is everyone assuming they know how it went down and that the NFLPA had to of known. Maybe they only knew part of the information and gained more after the agreement was signed and Mara opened his mouth. Maybe they knew but had no proof until after they agreed. I'm sure DSmith was "hell do whatever you want with your own as long as you keep our CAP numbers the same." Then afterwards he see's it was because the two teams we punished for "competetive balance" in an "uncapped year" when "competative balance" didn't mean squat because there was no CAP.

[HoopheadVII]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Wow, you got this all figured out. How about the NFL never told the NFLPA who was being punished until after they were politely reminded they couldn't file the law suit and when they agreed to allow the punishement then the paperwork slides across the table with the team names. The $$ amount of the reallocation was probably discussed even before the punishment was. Get the NFLPA to be thinking along the lines of finding a way to keep the $$ were they were instead of picking up a huge loss. Then when the NFL comes out with "Oh, we'd like to punish a couple of teams for competative balance and we can use that money to keep the CAP were it's at..... would you agree to that?"

No one knows how it went down in the meeting. No one knows what all was mentioned other then Goodell and DSmith. What upsets me is everyone assuming they know how it went down and that the NFLPA had to of known. Maybe they only knew part of the information and gained more after the agreement was signed and Mara opened his mouth. Maybe they knew but had no proof until after they agreed. I'm sure DSmith was "hell do whatever you want with your own as long as you keep our CAP numbers the same." Then afterwards he see's it was because the two teams we punished for "competetive balance" in an "uncapped year" when "competative balance" didn't mean squat because there was no CAP.

All I asked was how the NFLPA could have signed an agreement reallocating salary cap without knowing which teams were getting money taken away.

You said in an earlier post that maybe the NFLPA didn't know which teams were being punished on March 11 when they agreed to the salary cap reallocation. I'm trying to understand how that would even be possible.