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Old 05-29-2012, 09:14 AM   #1
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Re: A New Look Offense or the Same but Better?

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The percentage is simply this:

Outcome value of the play/baseline

A 30% play was 30 percent more valuable than the expectation for the down and distance.
Thanks,
Do you have the 1st down stats for the Texans?
I wonder how we compare to a good running team.

Personally I don't think Kyle is gonna make significant or meaningful changes.
I think the offense we saw last year is gonna be the offense we see this year.
But, I'm filled with hope and eagerness to be proved utterly wrong.
Because if they harnessed the talent of Griffin and really altered the offense around his skillset he could have a huge impact.
But, at the end of the day I think Robert Griffin is a 'coach proof' talent.

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Old 05-29-2012, 03:56 PM   #2
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Re: A New Look Offense or the Same but Better?

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Thanks,
Do you have the 1st down stats for the Texans?
I wonder how we compare to a good running team.

Personally I don't think Kyle is gonna make significant or meaningful changes.
I think the offense we saw last year is gonna be the offense we see this year.
But, I'm filled with hope and eagerness to be proved utterly wrong.
Because if they harnessed the talent of Griffin and really altered the offense around his skillset he could have a huge impact.
But, at the end of the day I think Robert Griffin is a 'coach proof' talent.
For the 2011 Texans:

1st down passing
59.2% (3rd)

1st down rushing
-0.6% (16th)

All 1st downs
20.3% (5th)

2nd down passing
8.2% (17th)

2nd down rushing
9.3% (10th)

All 2nd downs
4.9% (16th)

3rd/4th down passing
7.5% (15th)

3rd/4th down rushing
30.3% (8th)

All 3rd/4th downs
13.2% (12th)

All passing
27.3% (9th)

All rushing
7.9% (10th)

All offense
13.3% (9th)

If you look at the trends, the Texans are really similar to us (I suppose thats not the most surprising thing). They're a lot better on offense, sure, but the down/distance splits break down almost exactly identical.
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:19 PM   #3
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If you look at the trends, the Texans are really similar to us (I suppose thats not the most surprising thing). They're a lot better on offense, sure, but the down/distance splits break down almost exactly identical.
Thanks again bro.
But, I'm scratching my head on the the bolded portion. of your quote.
I guess they're kinda in the same ball park in some areas but I don't see identical.
I'd say they're somewhat close on 1st downs rushing/All 1st downs.
But its hard to guage the degree of difference between the data sets without seeing some other teams figures
For example: 1st down passing:
Texans: 3rd @ 59.2%
B&G: 7th @ 36.5%
Are they as close as the ranking suggests(3rd vs 7th) ? Or was far apart as the % suggests?

But, when it gets to 2nd down even without the knowing where the other teams fall their is a large disparity, first off the rankings are separated by almost 10 spots. And the Texans % figures are all in the positive and ours are all in the negative.

It would be great if this down/distance/run/pass DVOA was coordinated to matching YPA then it would be evening more meaningful.

For example what YPA do the Texans/B&G have on 1st downs rushing? etc..

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