Trayvon Martin Case

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

An unarmed teen carrying tea and skittles, on his way home, got shot in the chest and people are too emotionally charged?

If your so concerned about shootings why not bring up Chicago shootings and the 10 dead in just one weekend? There have been over 851 shootings there but no one seems to care about that. Just this one case.

This Memorial Day weekend turned into a bloody massacre in Chicago. There were a total of 40 reported shootings, which left 10 people dead and a dozen injured.
STORY: Got 'Em! Naked Man Who Chewed Off Another Man's Face Identified!
A man was shot dead near a holiday party in the South Shore neighborhood late Monday night, while an unidentified woman was found shot to death in an abandoned building.
The recent homicides have doubled as compared to Memorial Day 2011 and according to homicide records, there have been at least 200 homicides so far this year compared with 134 during the same period in 2011. That's a 49.25 percent increase over the last year.
On Tuesday, Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy are expected to hold a news conference where they discuss two new crime reduction strategies as shootings are up nearly 14 percent over last year.
There have been 851 shootings so far in 2012 compared with 747 during the same period in 2011, police data showed.
As reported by the Chicago Tribune:


Read more: 40 Shot, 10 Dead And Dozens Injured Over Memorial Day Weekend In Chicago (DETAILS) | Global Grind

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If your so concerned about shootings why not bring up Chicago shootings and the 10 dead in just one weekend? There have been over 851 shootings there but no one seems to care about that.

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I'd hazard a guess that the Chicago situation doesn't provide the racially charged narrative so useful to the current Administration.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If your so concerned about shootings why not bring up Chicago shootings and the 10 dead in just one weekend? There have been over 851 shootings there but no one seems to care about that. Just this one case.

This Memorial Day weekend turned into a bloody massacre in Chicago. There were a total of 40 reported shootings, which left 10 people dead and a dozen injured.
STORY: Got 'Em! Naked Man Who Chewed Off Another Man's Face Identified!
A man was shot dead near a holiday party in the South Shore neighborhood late Monday night, while an unidentified woman was found shot to death in an abandoned building.
The recent homicides have doubled as compared to Memorial Day 2011 and according to homicide records, there have been at least 200 homicides so far this year compared with 134 during the same period in 2011. That's a 49.25 percent increase over the last year.
On Tuesday, Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy are expected to hold a news conference where they discuss two new crime reduction strategies as shootings are up nearly 14 percent over last year.
There have been 851 shootings so far in 2012 compared with 747 during the same period in 2011, police data showed.
As reported by the Chicago Tribune:


Read more: 40 Shot, 10 Dead And Dozens Injured Over Memorial Day Weekend In Chicago (DETAILS) | Global Grind

Who says I'm not concerned about the Chicago shootings? And in case you didn't notice, this is the Trayvon Martin thread? #applesandoranges

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Who says I'm not concerned about the Chicago shootings? And in case you didn't notice, this is the Trayvon Martin thread? #applesandoranges

See, here's the thing -- through your posts, I see your emotionalism in this case tied up in the race of the victim rather than the generic concern about the death of an unarmed teen. Unarmed teens are shot and killed multiple times a month in Baltimore. Did you wear a hoodie for them? Did you rally for them? Have you notified the Mayor and members of the city counsel of your outrage through a simple phone call or letter?

If you do feel the same outrage at these killings, and you may well, I sincerely apologize. What I see from your postings, however, is concern for a victim wrapped in race rather than outrage over the death of a teen due to unnecessary violence - regardless of race.

This case is like many other murders throughout the nation. Mistaken identity, over-zealous gunman, etc. It is not, and has never been, worthy of the national news and only remains so b/c of the race based coverage it received early on.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

See, here's the thing -- through your posts, I see your emotionalism in this case tied up in the race of the victim rather than the generic concern about the death of an unarmed teen. Unarmed teens are shot and killed multiple times a month in Baltimore. Did you wear a hoodie for them? Did you rally for them? Have you notified the Mayor and members of the city counsel of your outrage through a simple phone call or letter?

If you do feel the same outrage at these killings, and you may well, I sincerely apologize. What I see from your postings, however, is concern for a victim wrapped in race rather than outrage over the death of a teen due to unnecessary violence - regardless of race.

This case is like many other murders throughout the nation. Mistaken identity, over-zealous gunman, etc. It is not, and has never been, worthy of the national news and only remains so b/c of the race based coverage it received early on.

Don't parse my posts and interpret what you think they mean or what I'm trying to say.

Who are you to say this case isn't worthy of national news? Tell that to the parents of Trayvon Martin who's killer roamed free for over a month before charges were even brought. Zimmerman, in likelihood, would still be walking the streets today had it not been for the outrage of the Sanford community.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Don't parse my posts and interpret what you think they mean or what I'm trying to say.

Who are you to say this case isn't worthy of national news? Tell that to the parents of Trayvon Martin who's killer roamed free for over a month before charges were even brought. Zimmerman, in likelihood, would still be walking the streets today had it not been for the outrage of the Sanford community.

That's fine I just wonder where this outrage is everyday a kid is killed in the inner city. If this much attention and effort went toward that then maybe something would actually happen to stop the senseless killings. In many of those killings the community turns its back to law enforcement but now when it convient they want the cops involved.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Don't parse my posts and interpret what you think they mean or what I'm trying to say.

Not trying to. Went back and reread them including the post you reposted above. I apologize for impression that I was attempting to box you into a particular response. I am not. Your responses have been aimed at the issues specific to this case and, when appropriate, to the larger issue of black on black crime. I apoligize for anything said that may be percieved to be impugning your lack of concern for other victims of violence.

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Who are you to say this case isn't worthy of national news? Tell that to the parents of Trayvon Martin who's killer roamed free for over a month before charges were even brought. Zimmerman, in likelihood, would still be walking the streets today had it not been for the outrage of the Sanford community.

I am someone who thinks that it one of countless cases that occur every year where known killers walk free uncharged for a significant period of time. Is this truly the crux of your concern - that a killer went uncharged? Where is the national outrage in the countless similar situations? What do we say to the victims of loved ones in those cases which do not become media darlings?

Why does this case deserve national attention when similar cases do not? Had this been a black on black crime or if had been originally reported as a minority on minority crime, I assert it would not have garnered national attention and, for that reason - b/c the national attention seems to me to be purely racially motivated, I believe it should not be a national story.

So, in turn, I ask you why do you believe this IS a case of national importance?