Redskins rookie signing thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why should another team have to pay for a team's inability to scout and put him a system that will fit his skills?

Maybe his salary will be more than what another team is willing to pay him so why should they have to pay? No, the team that drafted him should eat his contract if he's cut before the 4 years.

As I understand it, if a guy is cut, and no one picks him up, then the signing team eats his salary and pays him. But suppose (nightmare scenario) Griffin doesn't work out here, Bruce Allen and Shanahan are fired, and a new FO comes in. If another team picks up Griffin, then they should pay the contract, and the Skins new FO shouldn't be saddled with a past FO's bad decision.

Otherwise, if a top rookie gets to "double dip" so to say, then there is an incentive, however slight, for the rookie to screw up with the first team and get an early 2nd contract.

Remember, we are talking about a case where a team is willing to part ways with a very high draft pick before that guy has even finished his first contract. This is not the common occurrence, and it really means (in my opinion) that the guy didn't come to play in the NFL. After all, name 1 pick in the top 8 of this years draft that wasn't rated in the top 15 of all scouts/talking heads. It's not the case of a bubble guy that a team took a bad chance on, it's a guy who had everything going for him, and failed to produce.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

As I understand it, if a guy is cut, and no one picks him up, then the signing team eats his salary and pays him. But suppose (nightmare scenario) Griffin doesn't work out here, Bruce Allen and Shanahan are fired, and a new FO comes in. If another team picks up Griffin, then they should pay the contract, and the Skins new FO shouldn't be saddled with a past FO's bad decision.

Otherwise, if a top rookie gets to "double dip" so to say, then there is an incentive, however slight, for the rookie to screw up with the first team and get an early 2nd contract.

Remember, we are talking about a case where a team is willing to part ways with a very high draft pick before that guy has even finished his first contract. This is not the common occurrence, and it really means (in my opinion) that the guy didn't come to play in the NFL. After all, name 1 pick in the top 8 of this years draft that wasn't rated in the top 15 of all scouts/talking heads. It's not the case of a bubble guy that a team took a bad chance on, it's a guy who had everything going for him, and failed to produce.

What rookie is going to "screw up" with his first contract knowing it'll kill any value for his next contract? The window of opportunity is so small in the NFL that nobody is going to screw up their first contract, only to turn around and get a bare minimum contract JUST so he can really play and get a better contract after a minimum.

I assure you of that much. Did you see any teams willing to give JaMarcus Russell anything beyond the minimum to come in? Leaf? Vernon Gholston? Haynesworth?

At the very least, a team is going to keep a top pick a minimum of 3 years. So that leaves one year remaining which most likely will be peanuts in terms of overall salary.

So now we are back at owners bickering over peanuts, when they used to have to shell out 30-50 mil guaranteed on guys like Reggie Bush and JaMarcus Russell. Yeah, the owners can go **** themselves really. No sympathy here.

[jgalecpa]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

What rookie is going to "screw up" with his first contract knowing it'll kill any value for his next contract? The window of opportunity is so small in the NFL that nobody is going to screw up their first contract, only to turn around and get a bare minimum contract JUST so he can really play and get a better contract after a minimum...
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Ummm, Fred Davis comes to mind.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by jgalecpa

Ummm, Fred Davis comes to mind.

lol...do what?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by jgalecpa

Ummm, Fred Davis comes to mind.

Are you saying Fred Davis intentionally sabotaged his career with his first contract, so that he could prove himself again with his second contract, and then finally get that big money contract his third time around? Really?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

Are you saying Fred Davis intentionally sabotaged his career with his first contract, so that he could prove himself again with his second contract, and then finally get that big money contract his third time around? Really?

Now you are learning grasshopper.