A Return of the Running Game?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

But how do you have a great passing attack? By having to keep the defense honest with a great running attach and using play action. We have seen Shanny make diamonds out of thin air when it comes to running backs. If we can stay healthy, IF, on the offensive line I think we will have a serious ground threat that will definitely help the passing game with our new competent QB and WR's.

So do I think we will run more? Yes. But it will be to help the passing game as well. Do I think Shanny Jr. wants to run more? No. He seems like a pass happy kind of dude. But we aren't Houston. We don't have Andre Johnson. Find the balance. Win the game.

The way Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan calls plays, it's not far fetched to think that they will keep the defense honest by having RG3 do a lot of rollouts and bootlegs much like Gibbs used to have Joe Theismann and Jay Schroeder do. The Redskins have the wide receivers to not only go deep, but also to get open anywhere on the field. It's my opinion, but I can see Garcon emerging as a respected NFL WR in this offense. He, Hankerson, Moss, and Morgan will be the primary targets in the passing game all year. Figure Chris Cooley, Niles Paul, and Fred Davis into that passing game also. The running game will take care of itself. Both Helu and Royster are hungry for success after getting a taste of the NFL as rookies last season. Add Tim Hightower to that mix also. The Redskins are overdue for a 1,000 yard rusher. One of these three will be it.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

...The running game will take care of itself...

So you think Kyle will change his philosophy/play calling tendencies?
If so why?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by 30gut

So you think Kyle will change his philosophy/play calling tendencies?
If so why?

Namely because he has a new quarterback who is capable of making dynamic plays inside the pocket and on the run. Wouldn't that change the way that you call your offensive game plan?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Namely because he has a new quarterback who is capable of making dynamic plays inside the pocket and on the run. Wouldn't that change the way that you call your offensive game plan?

Yes, it would make me change my game plan. I would call more pass plays than before and hand it off to a running back less.

Which, to go back to the title of the thread, would hardly be a return of the running game.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Wouldn't that change the way that you call your offensive game plan?

We're not talking about some generalized or ambiguous "change".
We're talking specifically about whether or not the offense will/should become more balanced in the playcalling philosophy.
If Kyle's philosophy/playcalling were to become more balanced he would need to run the ball more.

So to answer your question directly: Certainly, having Griff as opposed to Rex/Beck would make change my offensive game plan.
But, having a dynamic QB, one of the best QB prospect in recent memory as opposed to Rex/Beck (near league worst QBs) wouldn't make me pass less.
It would make me maintain my pass first focus if not increase my pass first tendencies.

I have a direct question for you: Would having a QB who is capable of making dynamics plays in the passing game and running the ball cause you to pass less?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by 30gut

We're not talking about some generalized or ambiguous "change".
We're talking specifically about whether or not the offense will/should become more balanced in the playcalling philosophy.
If Kyle's philosophy/playcalling were to become more balanced he would need to run the ball more.

So to answer your question directly: Certainly, having Griff as opposed to Rex/Beck would make change my offensive game plan.
But, having a dynamic QB, one of the best QB prospect in recent memory as opposed to Rex/Beck (near league worst QBs) wouldn't make me pass less.
It would make me maintain my pass first focus if not increase my pass first tendencies.

I have a direct question for you: Would having a QB who is capable of making dynamics plays in the passing game and running the ball cause you to pass less?

They positive thing about Griffin is that he can be used in more than one way. He can pass the ball. He can also run for long gains as we know. I've even seen highlights of him catching the ball in Baylor's offense. Passing less depends on how much yardage you are gaining on offense with the running game or if the run is consistently effective.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Passing less depends on how much yardage you are gaining on offense with the running game or if the run is consistently effective.

Well of course playcalling on a play by play basis is dependent upon a multitude of in game contingencies that lead to a decision.

But, offensive philosophy guides those in game decisions.
E.g. a run oriented team will have a healthy number of run plays on their playcall sheet for 3rd and short (less then 3 yards) vs. a pass oreinted team that might only have pass plays only on their 3rd and short playcall sheet.

Those types of philosophical playcalling differences are what guides the in game decisions and determine the style of offense and the playcaller tendencies.

So I ask again, hoping the courtesy of answering the direct question you asked me earlier will be returned....

Originally Posted by 30gut

...Would having a QB who is capable of making dynamics plays in the passing game and running the ball cause you to pass less?

[SkinItup]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Well of course playcalling on a play by play basis is dependent upon a multitude of in game contingencies that lead to a decision.

But, offensive philosophy guides those in game decisions.
E.g. a run oriented team will have a healthy number of run plays on their playcall sheet for 3rd and short (less then 3 yards) vs. a pass oreinted team that might only have pass plays only on their 3rd and short playcall sheet.

Those types of philosophical playcalling differences are what guides the in game decisions and determine the style of offense and the playcaller tendencies.

So I ask again, hoping the courtesy of answering the direct question you asked me earlier will be returned....

If that is the only factor when considering a run oriented team, which it isn't, then no way in hell will we be run oriented. With RG3 its a pass play with giving him an option to run 80% of the time on 3rd and short. At least when there is more than a yard to be gained.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Well of course playcalling on a play by play basis is dependent upon a multitude of in game contingencies that lead to a decision.

But, offensive philosophy guides those in game decisions.
E.g. a run oriented team will have a healthy number of run plays on their playcall sheet for 3rd and short (less then 3 yards) vs. a pass oreinted team that might only have pass plays only on their 3rd and short playcall sheet.

Those types of philosophical playcalling differences are what guides the in game decisions and determine the style of offense and the playcaller tendencies.

So I ask again, hoping the courtesy of answering the direct question you asked me earlier will be returned....

The answer to your question is: it depends on how the offense is moving the ball. If the defense can't stop the run then more and more run plays will be called by the coaches. Then of course the more this happens the less a offensive coordinator will select to pass the ball.