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Old 06-30-2012, 08:55 PM   #1
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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

One more thing SS33, your $700B estimate is looking at a different time frame when the law was originally passed. The first two years of it didn't cost much because there wasn't much implementation. The new estimates cover 2011-2012.

On a side note every year it costs more to repeal the law, which explodes the deficit. CBO says repeal would costs $230 billion. Basically Republicans are full of shit when they say repeal and replace.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:50 AM   #2
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One more thing SS33, your $700B estimate is looking at a different time frame when the law was originally passed. The first two years of it didn't cost much because there wasn't much implementation. The new estimates cover 2011-2012.

On a side note every year it costs more to repeal the law, which explodes the deficit. CBO says repeal would costs $230 billion. Basically Republicans are full of shit when they say repeal and replace.


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Old 07-08-2012, 09:00 PM   #3
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One more thing SS33, your $700B estimate is looking at a different time frame when the law was originally passed. The first two years of it didn't cost much because there wasn't much implementation. The new estimates cover 2011-2012.

On a side note every year it costs more to repeal the law, which explodes the deficit. CBO says repeal would costs $230 billion. Basically Republicans are full of shit when they say repeal and replace.
I think the repeal cost is based on going with (Obamacare + taxes) vs. projected costs going back to the old system. I don't think the CBO number refers to what Republicans are proposing at all. So how can you say the Repubs are full of **** in this case?
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I think the repeal cost is based on going with (Obamacare + taxes) vs. projected costs going back to the old system. I don't think the CBO number refers to what Republicans are proposing at all. So how can you say the Repubs are full of **** in this case?
The latter part of your statement, Republicans have neither set forth a proposal for how they plan to repeal the law nor one to replace it. Frankly they're full of shit because Obamacare is a Republican model. If they've abandoned their own idea, one that originated at a Republican think tank, what do you suppose they plan to replace the law with? They aren't that's what.

They're full of it.
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The latter part of your statement, Republicans have neither set forth a proposal for how they plan to repeal the law nor one to replace it. Frankly they're full of shit because Obamacare is a Republican model. If they've abandoned their own idea, one that originated at a Republican think tank, what do you suppose they plan to replace the law with? They aren't that's what.

They're full of it.
Maybe they just realized it was a bad idea.
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Maybe they just realized it was a bad idea.

maybe, or maybe they realize they should have done it first.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:07 PM   #7
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Maybe they just realized it was a bad idea.
No, it's not a bad idea.
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Maybe they just realized it was a bad idea.
The role of a government is to solve problems faced by its people. Sometimes solutions are less than optimal and sometimes they aren't solutions at all. Rarely is it possible to have a perfect solution or do nothing as a solution. Obamacare solves a problem faced by a great deal of Americans and if you have a better idea you are welcome to share it. Saying it's a bad idea and pointing to faults here and there without having an alternative solution to the problem won't cut it.

This is something "conservatives" use to understand when they conceived of Obamacare but now they have to pander to goofy people who refuse to think.
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The role of a government is to solve problems faced by its people. Sometimes solutions are less than optimal and sometimes they aren't solutions at all. Rarely is it possible to have a perfect solution or do nothing as a solution. Obamacare solves a problem faced by a great deal of Americans and if you have a better idea you are welcome to share it. Saying it's a bad idea and pointing to faults here and there without having an alternative solution to the problem won't cut it.

This is something "conservatives" use to understand when they conceived of Obamacare but now they have to pander to goofy people who refuse to think.
That's what the left thinks.
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That's what the left thinks.
When did you become a degenerate old man? Or have you yet to realize what you have become?
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