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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
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ahhh no ,he didn't.All he said was people starting up a new business need help he said no matter who started what business they had help ...be it a banker with a loan ,a family member helping out etc.
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Living Legend
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 47
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
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![]() Yep. The message resonated with the President's target audience, the gullible.
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Playmaker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Richmond
Posts: 3,261
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
^ The dude is a community organizer and what he was doing and saying in Roanoke was just good old fashioned community organizing. You dont get your average joe rallied up by telling him someone is more successful than you because of their drive or their hard work. You get them involved by pitting their circumstance against another’s.
You tell them it’s the patrons of a restaurant, the consumers of a good, or the workers of a factory that allow a business to prosper. It’s the roads we all pay for, the public we educate. That it’s not just one person's pursuit of a dream that makes him successful, it’s the people of THIS community that made him successful. Its you, whos responsible for his wealth. Its OUR success. Its your right to share in it. Now go vote for me. This is Obama doing what hes soooo good at. The dudes smart, decent looking, calm, and can speak and respond to questions so articulately its amazing. Hes so skillful. The only problem is that America in a broad sense isnt really ready for that kind of tone, it goes against what has and continues to bring most immigrants here. But telling people their special, its not their fault, its just chance that seperates us, participation is winning, and so on is a lot easier of a sell than trying to get people to hold themselves accountable. This is something that crosses socioeconomic backgrounds too. Be it our first Black President Obama from Hawaii: "If you got a business you didnt build that. Somebody else made that happen" A middle class white kid from Scranton Penn: “Every single great idea that has marked the 21st century, the 20th century and the 19th century has required government vision and government incentive” Or a displaced Cherokee from Oklahoma: "There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody."
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