Several Dead in Dark Knight Premiere Mass Shooting

[NC_Skins]

I think this may have been his master plan. He rigged his place with explosives and trip wires and turned the music (via timer) on loud hoping to draw the police via neighbor complaints. Once the police kicked in the door, the bombs would have gone off, and it would created the diversion for him to have more time to kill.



Did Aurora, CO shooting suspect James Holmes try luring someone into apartment?


Did I mention that I was really disappointed they took this asshole alive.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Ban cars. They killed far more Americans this year than guns did.

OMG dont say that, liberals love their cars.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Ban cars. They killed far more Americans this year than guns did.

No lets ban flare guns and gasoline.
Because this nutjob could just have easily - propped the door open as advertised - and from his parked car brought in two large jugs of gasoline - quietly dumped them near the entrance doors - ran back to his car just outside the door for two more jugs where he could have dumped them near the middle of the audience. Fire one flare near the doors blocking their way to get out, another near the middle of the audience. He might have gotten all of them that way. Oh and he could have substituted Match Light Charcoal Briquettes for the flare gun and gotten the same results.
So how much stuff do we need to ban now?

[DynamiteRave]

Well, away from the should guns be banned topic, I'm personally glad to see this guy alive. So many times these idiots just do crazy shit then kill themselves (Columbine, VT Tech, etc) and we're all left wondering what the hell happened? What caused them to snap? Were they crazy all along? At least with this guy alive, he'll have to explain himself at some point.

I think someone mentioned they wished the guy had went along and killed himself, that's why I don't. I doubt an explanation of any sort will provide closure for those who lost their loved ones, but I'd rather be left with something instead of nothing.

And rest easy, although Colorado hasn't executed anyone in sometime, the death penalty is still alive and well there.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Well, away from the should guns be banned topic, I'm personally glad to see this guy alive. So many times these idiots just do crazy shit then kill themselves (Columbine, VT Tech, etc) and we're all left wondering what the hell happened? What caused them to snap? Were they crazy all along? At least with this guy alive, he'll have to explain himself at some point.

I think someone mentioned they wished the guy had went along and killed himself, that's why I don't. I doubt an explanation of any sort will provide closure for those who lost their loved ones, but I'd rather be left with something instead of nothing.

And rest easy, although Colorado hasn't executed anyone in sometime, the death penalty is still alive and well there.

Im completely with you in that im glad he was taken alive. He'll suffer more pain then to have been shot dead on site and he hopefully will allow for some closure to the families.

But i cant help but think he surrendered and that he wanted to be taken alive. The dude had on a bullet proof vest, helmet, neck armor and a cup (something for guys). Apparently he didnt put up a fight or anything. The dude isnt in the hospital, hes in jail. He also apparently told police about the bombs in his apartment.

Youre a budding psychologist right? Whats your gut about this guy being taken alive? Do you think he felt remorse and surrendered and made an effort to prevent more damage? Or do you think hes wanted to be taken alive so his deranged message can be heard?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Im completely with you in that im glad he was taken alive. He'll suffer more pain then to have been shot dead on site and he hopefully will allow for some closure to the families.

But i cant help but think he surrendered and that he wanted to be taken alive. The dude had on a bullet proof vest, helmet, neck armor and a cup (something for guys). Apparently he didnt put up a fight or anything. The dude isnt in the hospital, hes in jail. He also apparently told police about the bombs in his apartment.

Youre a budding psychologist right? Whats your gut about this guy being taken alive? Do you think he felt remorse and surrendered and made an effort to prevent more damage? Or do you think hes wanted to be taken alive so his deranged message can be heard?

Considering all the preparation he took and the fact he had so much body armor, he definitely wanted to be taken alive. I would think that an act done with so much preparation, senselessly but in a specific area was meant to send a message of some sort. Probably some crazy convoluted one as this guy seemed to think he was The Joker but he was making a point of some sort. Apparently he was just spraying bullets, it wasn't like Columbine (where the shooters had a vendetta and although they WERE spraying bullets, they also went after specific kids), here everyone had a chance of being a target.

I mean... Overall, to me, it sounds just from what I've pieced together, it sounds like the dude had some weird fantasy of being a movie villain and The Joker is known for taking innocents as part of his plots.

Again, I dunno much and its all speculation.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Considering all the preparation he took and the fact he had so much body armor, he definitely wanted to be taken alive. I would think that an act done with so much preparation, senselessly but in a specific area was meant to send a message of some sort. Probably some crazy convoluted one as this guy seemed to think he was The Joker but he was making a point of some sort. Apparently he was just spraying bullets, it wasn't like Columbine (where the shooters had a vendetta and although they WERE spraying bullets, they also went after specific kids), here everyone had a chance of being a target.

I mean... Overall, to me, it sounds just from what I've pieced together, it sounds like the dude had some weird fantasy of being a movie villain and The Joker is known for taking innocents as part of his plots.

Again, I dunno much and its all speculation.

From NCSkins link it appears he wanted to set a trap that required participation, when a more realistically way would be to just use a timer. It does feel like he was living out some sort of fantasy. But you cant help but feel like the dude is crazy like a serial killer and not a mass murderer. Just doesnt make sense.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Don't want this to turn into a gun rights discussion, but banning guns like the AR-15 isn't going to do diddly squat to curtail a evil man from being evil.


Name me the type of gun used by any of these mass murders.

Ted Bundy
Jeffrey Dahmer
Albert DeSalvo
Timothy McVeigh

Guns don’t kill people | The Daily


..and to think I was being accused of being a dem/liberal card carrying hippie.



This.

Anyways, seems this kid dyed his hair red and told the cops he was "The Joker". I'd say somewhere along the line, he snapped and went over the edge. Also, I've read a crazy rumor about why his apartment was rigged with explosives.

What was the rumor?

[CultBrennan59]

Well I'll say this.

I just got back from seeing the dark knight rises. Going in I thought I would be paranoid that whenever a door closed or opened or a person walking during the film would occur, that I would be looking constantly and lose my attention to the flick.


By about 5 mins in, I had lost all fears. The movie was just that great and captivating. Also there were about 5 security guards there (with guns) so that made things feel a lot safer.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Well I'll say this.

I just got back from seeing the dark knight rises. Going in I thought I would be paranoid that whenever a door closed or opened or a person walking during the film would occur, that I would be looking constantly and lose my attention to the flick.


By about 5 mins in, I had lost all fears. The movie was just that great and captivating. Also there were about 5 security guards there (with guns) so that made things feel a lot safer.

Just curious, were you planning on going tonight for awhile or did this somehow draw more interest or spur the decision for you or your group? Ive heard its been "sold out across America".

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Just curious, were you planning on going tonight for awhile or did this somehow draw more interest or spur the decision for you or your group? Ive heard its been "sold out across America".

I bought tickets in Imax 3 weeks ago. So I was going to see it today regardless of a the terrible events that occurred today. Like people said you can't let this stop you from going, this could have happened to anyone at anytime.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Well I'll say this.

I just got back from seeing the dark knight rises. Going in I thought I would be paranoid that whenever a door closed or opened or a person walking during the film would occur, that I would be looking constantly and lose my attention to the flick.


By about 5 mins in, I had lost all fears. The movie was just that great and captivating. Also there were about 5 security guards there (with guns) so that made things feel a lot safer.

I'm going to see it in a couple hours tonight, and I hope it ends up being the same for me as it was for you. You never know with these crazy bastards.

[NC_Skins]

Great detail and grueling pictures in this article.


The Dark Knight Rises theater shooting: James Holmes looked like and said he was the JOKER | Mail Online



Like I said in my previous post. His intention was to cause a distraction at his apartment with a radio on a timer that blasted loud music. The neighbors were to complain, call police, open door and set off bombs causing the distraction. This distraction would have allowed him to continue shooting more people, as well as killed whoever opened that door.

Did Aurora, CO shooting suspect James Holmes try luring someone into apartment?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm going to see it in a couple hours tonight, and I hope it ends up being the same for me as it was for you. You never know with these crazy bastards.

You'll love it, I really don't understand how people can't like this movie (referring to the 18 critics on rottentomato.com; who now have death threats against them).

This movie goes by fast, hell I wish it was 3 or 4 hours long like it was originally supposed to be. Bane is incredible. The action is great. The effects are great. If you can see it in IMAX, DO IT! It's worth the $15, trust me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

You'll love it, I really don't understand how people can't like this movie (referring to the 18 critics on rottentomato.com; who now have death threats against them).

This movie goes by fast, hell I wish it was 3 or 4 hours long like it was originally supposed to be. Bane is incredible. The action is great. The effects are great. If you can see it in IMAX, DO IT! It's worth the $15, trust me.

Death threats over an opinion of a movie?

I guess it's not too hard to see why this incident happened when there are so many maniacs out there.