Several Dead in Dark Knight Premiere Mass Shooting

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Death threats over an opinion of a movie?

I guess it's not too hard to see why this incident happened when there are so many maniacs out there.

Bill Maher had a comment very close to this on twitter yesterday and it's just as good a point now as it was then. I seriously can't understand the vitriol directed at someone for having an opinion on a movie about anything, much less some middle aged dude in a bat costume prancing from rooftop to rooftop.

[That Guy]

so, norway isn't as gun happy as we are, but they still had a massacre.

if you ban guns, do you really think murderous nutjobs are going to care about breaking gun laws, when, you know, they're planning on killing people?

I don't understand why a deer rifle or what have you needs a 100 round clip or anything like that, but a gun ban isn't retroactive, there'll still be a billionty existing weapons floating around.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by That Guy

so, norway isn't as gun happy as we are, but they still had a massacre.

if you ban guns, do you really think murderous nutjobs are going to care about breaking gun laws, when, you know, they're planning on killing people?

I don't understand why a deer rifle or what have you needs a 100 round clip or anything like that, but a gun ban isn't retroactive, there'll still be a billionty existing weapons floating around.

Norway hasn't had as many shootings as we have. Look up the annual numbers.

Just because a ban isn't retroactive, isn't an excuse to ignore the problem. Like you said there needs to be a better job of restricting certain types of weapons and ammo.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I'm going to manufacture a new line of baseball bat.
I'll call it the Assault Bat.
Maybe someone will buy one and kill his neighbor with it.
OMG!
Bats are evil.
The media will sensationalize the name and create a bunch of hype and ignorant libs will eat it up.
Ban all baseball bats!

What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.

Bombs.


So is yours.


Can we get back to talking about the tragedy? Somebody start a "gun control" thread in the Debating with the Enemy section.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.

Oh please.....you anti gun weiners crack me up.
Tim McVeigh killed 168 people in one instance without using a single firearm.
You want to ban fertilizer and cargo vans?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.

While his post may have been a bit.....provocative, a similar logic was applied to the original Assault Weapons Ban in 94' and and fed to an uniformed American people by...then President Bill Clinton. It was a ridiculous proposition then and it remains today.
However, I made some pretty good money as a result of it....so guess it was not all bad.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What kills people quicker and more efficiently? Guns.

Your above argument is so ridiculous.

I used to be anti-gun for awhile but over the years have changed my opinion. But trust me, if someone wants to kill someone, they're going to find a way. Gun or no gun. When people snap or are just pure nuts, the extremes they go to to cause harm to others is unbelievable.

Look at 9/11, killed thousands of people and not caused by gun violence.

[Hog1]

Good point!
Some quality YouTube time in the bomb making dept, a side trip to Ace Hardware for some fertilizer, and you have OKC FBI building coming down.....

[Lotus]

Banning assault weapons won't keep all psychos from getting them. But it will make it harder for them to get them. Don't we want to make it harder for a psycho to get an assault weapon?

Also, banning assault weapons will not eliminate all of the ones in circulation. But each year into the future, as weapons degrade as all machines do, it will be harder for psychos to get their hands on them. Again, don't we want it to be difficult for psychos to get weapons?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Banning assault weapons won't keep all psychos from getting them. But it will make it harder for them to get them. Don't we want to make it harder for a psycho to get an assault weapon?

Also, banning assault weapons will not eliminate all of the ones in circulation. But each year into the future, as weapons degrade as all machines do, it will be harder for psychos to get their hands on them. Again, don't we want it to be difficult for psychos to get weapons?

Since the theater shooter also killed and maimed with a pistol and a shotgun I find it amusing that you don't mention them.

Polarized by media hype about the much demonized assault rifles maybe?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Since the theater shooter also killed and maimed with a pistol and a shotgun I find it amusing that you don't mention them.

Polarized by media hype about the much demonized assault rifles maybe?

Nope. I am not polarized by media hype. My comments were intended to respect the keeping of some guns by citizens while outlawing the over-the-top guns.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Nope. I am not polarized by media hype. My comments were intended to respect the keeping of some guns by citizens while outlawing the over-the-top guns.

Knowing that a lot of handguns and shotguns can blow half your head off please tell me which of the other firearms are "over the top"?

[Hog1]

Banning "Assault Weapons" is a useless proposition and without benefit to anyone......
It has been popularized by political pundits solely to placate a US population that knows no better.
We need to adopt actions that make sense.....

[SolidSnake84]

I am an advocate of gun rights, and I think that every law abiding citizen should be able to own and posess firearms. In fact both of my parents hold concealed weapons licenses.

HOWEVER, i do not feel that the mass shooting in colorado could have been prevented by having everyone in the theater packing, as popular opinion has said.

Things are very bad in the US in 2012, but it's not so bad that it's like the wild wild west where everyone needs to carry a gun to survive.

There are some people out there who aren't psychologically capable of having the responsibility of gun ownership, and there are people who are "afraid of the world" so to speak that would fire at the drop of a hat. People like that give gun owners a bad name.

My wife works for a woman who two summers ago, was robbed by a kid with a BB gun. She was severely traumatized as a result, went right out and bought a pistol, and despite not having a concealed weapon permit, she keeps it in her purse everywhere she goes. 3 occasions this past year the woman has gotten startled at work and reached for the pistol before calming down. She is going to kill someone one day unjustifiably. This is the kind of person who will see shrubs moving and open fire, only to find out after the fact that a child or someone was reaching through the bushes to get something.

The tragedy in Colorado is a tragedy IMO and nothing could have prevented it. To implement all the types of security that Joe Public is calling for now as a result, puts us effectively in a police state where the military/police check you everywhere you go...not the solution IMO