Gun Control Thread- Should we?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

In general, firearms are made with the intent of injuring/killing. Let's not kid ourselves.

Thats hardly an accurate statement painted with a pretty broad stroke.
I could poke a million holes in that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Thats hardly an accurate statement.
I could poke a million holes in that.

Ok so what's the intent of most firearms? Educate me. Outside of shooting targets for sport, there's not much else they're used for that doesn't involve killing humans or animals as far as I see.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Thats hardly an accurate statement painted with a pretty broad stroke.
I could poke a million holes in that.

Alvin, what are you using to poke those holes? May I suggest an automatic weapon as you could shoot a million holes in the argument a lot faster.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Cars aren't built with an intent to kill though. That's where that type of argument comes up short for me.

Yes they may not have the intent to kill; but most LEO's will tell you that is the most dangerous thing you can give a person.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Yes they may not have the intent to kill; but most LEO's will tell you that is the most dangerous thing you can give a person.

Well of course, but we're talking about two separate issues.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok so what's the intent of most firearms? Educate me. Outside of shooting targets for sport, there's not much else they're used for that doesn't involve killing humans or animals as far as I see.

Shooting targets is fun and hunting is legal. Why should that be taken away from responsible people?

Bad guys will find ways to kill; heck look no further the 9/11; no guns used there

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Shooting targets is fun and hunting is legal. Why should that be taken away from responsible people?

Bad guys will find ways to kill; heck look no further the 9/11; no guns used there

Ugh, I never said to take away guns.

Why does everyone make the assumption that if you're for gun control you want to take away everyone's guns?

More restrictions, tighter laws, and more enforcement is all I'm for.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok so what's the intent of most firearms? Educate me. Outside of shooting targets for sport, there's not much else they're used for that doesn't involve killing humans or animals as far as I see.

Compensation for insecurities.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Compensation for insecurities.

I live in a very rural area where police response can be measured quite accurately with a calendar featuring kittens in a basket. Ok, any calendar...

I'm not one to hide under the bed should someone come into my home that I don't invite and anyone on here should be able to vouch for how annoying I am. Someone out there must want to do bodily harm, right?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Compensation for insecurities.

I thought that's what big pickup trucks were for?

[mredskins]

Ever watch Alaskan State Troopers? You seriously need a gun out there. One cop covers the area of Maryland.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ugh, I never said to take away guns.

Why does everyone make the assumption that if you're for gun control you want to take away everyone's guns?

More restrictions, tighter laws, and more enforcement is all I'm for.

I think that is where folks are getting confused. I personally was speaking to you about assualt rifles. I also agree with your last statement.

[mredskins]

I have now determined this is a merry go round thread; I am out.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

For all your claims that people freeze when confronted with these types of events, there isn't much evidence to support that. I think you all underestimate one's ability to survive and act. I do think it boils down to how comfortable you are with using a gun and training.

So show evidence that supports they don't freeze up

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

So show evidence that supports they don't freeze up

You are asking me to prove a claim I didn't make. Secondly, I'm showing you instances of this very proof you are asking for. Just go to youtube and search "robber gets shot" and you'll see quite a few instances where people act when confronted.


Don't get me wrong, I've been on record with saying even if that whole theater was armed, it would have changed anything. You can't prove that. I'm not saying people will or will not freeze when confronted. I just think you all underestimate a human's will to survive.


Take this guy. A old man who just got hit with a bat on the head and still have the ability to act. Not everybody is going to respond as such, but let's not sell out people so short.