Gun Control Thread- Should we?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Cars aren't built with an intent to kill though. That's where that type of argument comes up short for me.

A lot of guns US manufacturers make that fit the assault gun profile aren't intended for killing either.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

A lot of guns US manufacturers make that fit the assault gun profile aren't intended for killing either.

In general, firearms are made with the intent of injuring/killing. Let's not kid ourselves.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

In general, firearms are made with the intent of injuring/killing. Let's not kid ourselves.

Thats hardly an accurate statement painted with a pretty broad stroke.
I could poke a million holes in that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Thats hardly an accurate statement.
I could poke a million holes in that.

Ok so what's the intent of most firearms? Educate me. Outside of shooting targets for sport, there's not much else they're used for that doesn't involve killing humans or animals as far as I see.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok so what's the intent of most firearms? Educate me. Outside of shooting targets for sport, there's not much else they're used for that doesn't involve killing humans or animals as far as I see.

Every single firearm I have ever purchased was not purchased so I could use it to shoot at a human being.
I'll estimate there are hundreds of thousands out there in America just like me.
Their capability upon manufacture may be (among other things) to kill, it does not mean the owner will use it that way.
Smith and Wesson doesn't give a rats ass about intent. Nor should they.
Its a hunk of steel until the wrong person comes along.
And you could say the same thing about my garden shovel.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Every single firearm I have ever purchased was not purchased so I could use it to shoot at a human being.
I'll estimate there are hundreds of thousands out there in America just like me.
Their capability upon manufacture may be (among other things) to kill, it does not mean the owner will use it that way.
Smith and Wesson doesn't give a rats ass about intent. Nor should they.
Its a hunk of steel until the wrong person comes along.
And you could say the same thing about my garden shovel.

Think you missed my point.

Just about anything can be used as a weapon. But a gun is a weapon.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok so what's the intent of most firearms? Educate me. Outside of shooting targets for sport, there's not much else they're used for that doesn't involve killing humans or animals as far as I see.

The same intent of nuclear weapons. Deterrence.

[NC_Skins]

For all your claims that people freeze when confronted with these types of events, there isn't much evidence to support that. I think you all underestimate one's ability to survive and act. I do think it boils down to how comfortable you are with using a gun and training.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Thats hardly an accurate statement painted with a pretty broad stroke.
I could poke a million holes in that.

Alvin, what are you using to poke those holes? May I suggest an automatic weapon as you could shoot a million holes in the argument a lot faster.