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[RGIII]

Is Antonio Brown's contract similar to Garçon's? How do they compare overall? Some think the Skins overpaid for Garçon.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by RGIII

Is Antonio Brown's contract similar to Garçon's? How do they compare overall? Some think the Skins overpaid for Garçon.

We won't know for a couple years whether or not the Redskins overpaid for Pierre Garcon. The Redskins front office felt Garcon is a young wide receiver coming off of career highs in catches and yards. They felt that since he got his first taste of that, he'll do more of that in the years to come. Signing Garcon to a multi year deal could turn out to be one of the best decisions that the Redskins front office ever made.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

We won't know for a couple years whether or not the Redskins overpaid for Pierre Garcon. The Redskins front office felt Garcon is a young wide receiver coming off of career highs in catches and yards. They felt that since he got his first taste of that, he'll do more of that in the years to come. Signing Garcon to a multi year deal could turn out to be one of the best decisions that the Redskins front office ever made.

I'm really hoping dropping four picks for one player turns out to be the best move the front office made... Otherwise there is going to be some egg on some faces.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

I'm really hoping dropping four picks for one player turns out to be the best move the front office made... Otherwise there is going to be some egg on some faces.

RG3 will succeed. He will prove that he was worth what the Redskins gave up in order to get him. They took Heath Shuler in the first round. They took Patrick Ramsey in the first round. They took Jason Campbell in the first round. Then they traded a 2nd round pick to the Eagles to get McNabb. All of that combined is what they gave up to get Robert Griffin III.

[NC_Skins]

Future DT in the NFL.

Alabama lineman bench presses 600 pounds | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports



Nope. He's definitely not doing roids.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Future DT in the NFL.

Alabama lineman bench presses 600 pounds | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports



Nope. He's definitely not doing roids.

looking at his body/tone, it actually doesn't look like he's roided out. but i'm not an expert by any means

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Future DT in the NFL.

Alabama lineman bench presses 600 pounds | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports



Nope. He's definitely not doing roids.

Plus...
Williams started every game for the Crimson Tide last season. He had 24 tackles, four tackles for loss, three quarterback hurries and a pass breakup.


....this does not impress me.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Future DT in the NFL.

Alabama lineman bench presses 600 pounds | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports



Nope. He's definitely not doing roids.

People of Polynesian decent in my opinion are the strongest human folks I have ever met. I knew this Tongan guy at my old gym (he since has passed away a few years back from a heart attack) Harry weighed around 300lbs. and he used to bench press 660lbs and probably more. This guy was amazing, whenever he benched the gym stopped and people watched. No he wasn't on roids, he was all natural (he loved to eat) we went out to a restaurant once and man that guy ate as much as he benched pressed. RIP Harry.

[NC_Skins]

I don't want to sidetrack this too much, but I do want to respond these two.

Originally Posted by los panda

looking at his body/tone, it actually doesn't look like he's roided out. but i'm not an expert by any means

You can't go on body tone. Not every guy on roids is going to look like Laron Landry (see Alex Rodriquez for example). There are some huge guys that look fat that are juicing. How you look is dependent on the type of training you are doing, your diet, and the type of chemical you are injection (or ingesting). Nothing surprises me when it comes to chemical enhancers in the training world.

Take this guy for example. Nobody in the World's Strongest man competition is natural.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T-RDUQMlVp...s1600/bsha.jpg

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

People of Polynesian decent in my opinion are the strongest human folks I have ever met. I knew this Tongan guy at my old gym (he since has passed away a few years back from a heart attack) Harry weighed around 300lbs. and he used to bench press 660lbs and probably more. This guy was amazing, whenever he benched the gym stopped and people watched. No he wasn't on roids, he was all natural (he loved to eat) we went out to a restaurant once and man that guy ate as much as he benched pressed. RIP Harry.

It has nothing to do with being Polynesian, but genetics does play a part in it all. Not every man taking roids can end up looking like Arnold, Jay Cutler, Dorian Yates or Ronnie Coleman. I hate to break the bad news to you on your departed friend, but he was indeed on steroids. You don't bench over 600lbs without help. Truthfully, anybody benching over 450 should be looked at as potential user. That is all there is to it. Many people really have no clue how prevalent it is in the gym and in sports. I used to work in the gym back in my younger days, and even had a hand in training college athletes. I researched steroids quite a bit and have even helped people obtain particular enhancers as well. There are many types of roids and they all have different affects on the body. Some for strength/size, others for cutting.

The most annoying part from roids users are the guys that deny it till their dying days.(think Roger Clemens) I had a few body builders in the gym that used to talk so much shit about steroids, yet I knew the guy who was selling them their gear. LOL The hypocrites are the best. It really is a common thing though, and more often than not starts in high school. Even in my old days, we had guys that did this, and this was in the 90's.


Andy Haman 600 lb bench press - YouTube


edit: For the record, I'm not knocking these individuals that are. If my career depended on it, and it came down to potential millions of dollars in a contract, I'd juice too.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I don't want to sidetrack this too much, but I do want to respond these two.



You can't go on body tone. Not every guy on roids is going to look like Laron Landry (see Alex Rodriquez for example). There are some huge guys that look fat that are juicing. How you look is dependent on the type of training you are doing, your diet, and the type of chemical you are injection (or ingesting). Nothing surprises me when it comes to chemical enhancers in the training world.

Take this guy for example. Nobody in the World's Strongest man competition is natural.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T-RDUQMlVp...s1600/bsha.jpg





It has nothing to do with being Polynesian, but genetics does play a part in it all. Not every man taking roids can end up looking like Arnold, Jay Cutler, Dorian Yates or Ronnie Coleman. I hate to break the bad news to you on your departed friend, but he was indeed on steroids. You don't bench over 600lbs without help. Truthfully, anybody benching over 450 should be looked at as potential user. That is all there is to it. Many people really have no clue how prevalent it is in the gym and in sports. I used to work in the gym back in my younger days, and even had a hand in training college athletes. I researched steroids quite a bit and have even helped people obtain particular enhancers as well. There are many types of roids and they all have different affects on the body. Some for strength/size, others for cutting.

Oh you knew Harry was a steroid user? Really? You must be psychic, the guy was as natural as can be. Please, you didn't even know the guy for you to assume, yet accuse someone you don't even know. Oh wait, I must be as steroid user cause I'm bald.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

edit: For the record, I'm not knocking these individuals that are. If my career depended on it, and it came down to potential millions of dollars in a contract, I'd juice too.

A lot of people are either being dishonest or haven't thought it all the way through when they get mad at athletes that juice.
Heck, there was a period of time my SR year in highschool where I was debating college ball.
And if I had decided to play you better believe I was going to do at least 1 cycle.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Future DT in the NFL.

Alabama lineman bench presses 600 pounds | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports



Nope. He's definitely not doing roids.

...and he's an Aussie...they always have a mean streak!!