2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'd much rather him pander than have three billionaires (Shelly Adelson, Foster Friess, Koch brothers) bankroll his campaign and dictate policy.

If a guy cuts a $10 million check to your campaign, the next logical question is what does he want in return.

And unions don't do the same thing?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

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And unions don't do the same thing?

What union is bankrolling Obama's campaign to the tune of a billion dollars or even hundreds of thousands?

For what it's worth, every union isn't all warm and fuzzy with Obama. Don't know where you got that from.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

What union is bankrolling Obama's campaign to the tune of a billion dollars or even hundreds of thousands?

For what it's worth, every union isn't all warm and fuzzy with Obama. Don't know where you got that from.

In 2004 UAW contributed $ 4.1M to Obama. In 2000-2008, UAW contributed over $ 23M to Dems, $ 193K to the GOP.

So for a $ 23M investment they got back $ 23BILLION.....1000 times ROI, pretty damn good.....just one example.

The bundlers at Solyndra and other green energy companies that made off with taxpayer backed loans only donated in the hundreds of thousands, yet got millions....another great play.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

In 2004 UAW contributed $ 4.1M to Obama. In 2000-2008, UAW contributed over $ 23M to Dems, $ 193K to the GOP.

So for a $ 23M investment they got back $ 23BILLION.....1000 times ROI, pretty damn good.....just one example.

The bundlers at Solyndra and other green energy companies that made off with taxpayer backed loans only donated in the hundreds of thousands, yet got millions....another great play.

What about Wall Street ,you hammer Unions and forget about the uber weathly CEO's who took down Wall St in the first place ...UNDER BUSH's ...reign of terror.Lets not forget the Auto Industry is paying it back.

Government Bailout of Ford GM Chrysler and the Auto Industry


Very good break down of the whole thing!

[Giantone]

This is what Mittins brings to the table......

Romney Economics: Bankruptcy and Bailouts at GST...

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Giantone

What about Wall Street ,you hammer Unions and forget about the uber weathly CEO's who took down Wall St in the first place ...UNDER BUSH's ...reign of terror.Lets not forget the Auto Industry is paying it back.

Government Bailout of Ford GM Chrysler and the Auto Industry


Very good break down of the whole thing!

The CEOs are split D & R. Some of the Wall St. firms receiving bailout money were big Obama contributors. Wall St. connected firms/individuals donated more to Obama over McCain in 2008.

The catalyst for the Wall St. meltdown was the mortgage crisis, which stemmed from lax lending practices started by Clinton's Making Homes Affordable plan. Even Clinton, along with the GOP in Congress, was raising red flags on Fannie/Freddie while Barney Frank, Maxine Waters and crew were saying everything's fine, nothing to see here.

The U.S. Dept. of Treasury has stated that when all is said and done U.S. taxpayers will have lost $23B total in the auto bailouts.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

What union is bankrolling Obama's campaign to the tune of a billion dollars or even hundreds of thousands?

For what it's worth, every union isn't all warm and fuzzy with Obama. Don't know where you got that from.

I think your mean a million dollars. Sadly i wonder how long it is until we see a campaign that costs a billion? This year or 2016?

I thought this was kind of funny. We all remember Obama hooking his biggest bundlers up with jobs:

Report: Nearly 80% of Obama’s Top Bundlers Given “Key Administration Posts” - ABC News


Well by doing so it has complicated, and probably limited, the amount of money he can raise this go around. They cant campaign for him the way they did now that theyre part of the administration.

What Obama's Richest Donors Tell Us About His Campaign - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I think your mean a million dollars. Sadly i wonder how long it is until we see a campaign that costs a billion? This year or 2016?

I thought this was kind of funny. We all remember Obama hooking his biggest bundlers up with jobs:

Report: Nearly 80% of Obama’s Top Bundlers Given “Key Administration Posts” - ABC News


Well by doing so it has complicated, and probably limited, the amount of money he can raise this go around. They cant campaign for him the way they did now that theyre part of the administration.

What Obama's Richest Donors Tell Us About His Campaign - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

Thanks for the catch.

Don't quote me, but I think combined we've surpassed a billion dollars in campaign spending. Pretty much disqualifies me from every running for POTUS.

[NC_Skins]

One Clue To Romney's Veep Pick: Whose Wiki Page Is Getting The Most Edits? : The Two-Way : NPR

Interesting.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Thanks for the catch.

Don't quote me, but I think combined we've surpassed a billion dollars in campaign spending. Pretty much disqualifies me from every running for POTUS.

I saw or heard something a little while back that there was a legit estimate (probably from Heritage) that Democrats might spend over a billion this year. Democrats rebuffed but i think they said it would be around 750.

I think democrats normally spend more, but i would think normally a mid cycle election would be less or the same as 4 years earlier.

Ill see if i can find it later so not just to speculate.