2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[12thMan]

SlinginSammy, but the fundamental questions remains..Obama's been in public office for what over 15 years now. What in his legislative record suggests that he's outside of mainstream political thought?

Thoughts on the movie aside, isn't it fair to say that voters have enough information, one way or another, based on his last four years as president?

Additionally, this has to be first time ever a featured doc/film has been released about a sitting incumbent less than 80 days from election day, no? I would think the prudent voter would approach this film with some healthy skepticism. Not attacking the film, just odd to release it so close to election day.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

SlinginSammy, but the fundamental questions remains..Obama's been in public office for what over 15 years now. What in his legislative record suggests that he's outside of mainstream political thought?

Thoughts on the movie aside, isn't it fair to say that voters have enough information, one way or another, based on his last four years as president?

Additionally, this has to be first time ever a featured doc/film has been released about a sitting incumbent less than 80 days from election day, no? I would think the prudent voter would approach this film with some healthy skepticism. Not attacking the film, just odd to release it so close to election day.

Outside of conservative authors/investigators, Obama was never truly scrutinized by the mainstream media, certainly not during his quick rise (due to the "departure" of opponents) in the IL Senate, nor during his Senate run where his opponent was dumped by a sex scandal, and not during 2008 as the mainstream media was in his corner and anyone bringing up Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, etc. was immediately slammed as a racist.

I would say voters who go looking for info on Obama can find it, but the mainstream media has certainly done it's best to keep negative info on Obama off its airwaves/websites. And still anyone bringing up information on Obama's political upbringing is labeled as "extreme" or "racist", just look at the coverage of DD surround his book and the movie. All the while CBS, ABC, CNN run pieces on the Mormon faith to put it in a bad light, while no one looks at the real philosophy behind Rev. Wright's beliefs, or Obama's upbringing in an Anti-American family, or his associations with radicals in college and beyond.

I would say the run-of-the-mill voter doesn't know any of this and should see the movie. I also contend that Obama has not been as aggressive in pushing his agenda as he will be if re-elected, as evidenced by his open-mic comments to Medvedev.

On the release date, certainly no coincidence. DD talks about his political thoughts and where he came from, so it's no secret he's a Reaganite.

Here's where is Obama outside the political mainstream:
- His politcal background is Socialist/Anti-colonialist due to his father's roots in Kenya, his mother's and grandparents Communist/Marxist beliefs, Frank Marshall Davis' (Communist Party member) influence, his associations and professors in college (Edward Said, POL supporter and apologist for terrorism)and his time overseas in Indonesia and Kenya.
- HHS Mandate: most Americans are against forcing religious organizations to be forced to provide health services that are against their beliefs (Abortion drugs, sterilization, contraception)
- ObamaCare: most Americans are against ObamaCare and don't want gov't control over healthcare.
- Restricting oil development, shut down Keystone pipeline....yet approving loans to Brazil & Mexico to drill.
- most Americans don't don't want European level gas prices...but Obama and his Sec of Energy do.
- Increased EPA regulations that increase not just car prices, but prices for all goods that require transport, for all Americans.
- Most Americans wouldn't approve billion dollar loans to junk-bond rated "green energy" companies...who just happen to be run by Obama bundlers/major donors.
- Cutting U.S. active nuclear weapons from approximately 1,800 to 300....while Russia is at over 1,500, China is increasing its military, and we face emerging nuclear threats in the Middle East and N. Korea.
- support of UN treaty on small arms that infringes on 2nd Ammendment rights....but sell guns to Mexican drug cartels then refuse to provide key information on program to Congress.
- forcing Navy to "green fuel" which costs $ 26gal vs. $ 3.60gal of conventional fuel.
- most Americans support Israel and don't want to see them wiped out...while Obama is doing nothing to stop Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon

Obama Places Vast Oil Reserves Off-Limits As Gas Prices Rise - Investors.com

- see the link below for more

President Obama's Marxist-Leninist Economics: Fact And Fiction - Forbes

[saden1]

Same old garbage stamped with a new post date and number.


...we'll find out soon enough what most Americans want.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Here's where is Obama outside the political mainstream:
- His politcal background is Socialist/Anti-colonialist due to his father's roots in Kenya, his mother's and grandparents Communist/Marxist beliefs, Frank Marshall Davis' (Communist Party member) influence, his associations and professors in college (Edward Said, POL supporter and apologist for terrorism)and his time overseas in Indonesia and Kenya.

This is where you lose all credibility with me,you blame his father , mother and his teachers.This is nothing but extreme right wing BS!Republican scare tactics,you know you can't win on issues becuase it's the republican congress that is killing this country and holding up everything.