2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

With no method to track fraud or checking ID there would be no way to track fraud. We do know for a fact that millions of dead people are still registered to vote.

If you think about what your saying is that the Dem's supporters are to dumb and lazy to go get an ID.

let me ask you a question( or 2) first, do you think the only people that commit voter fraud are Dem's? and secondly, how much actual voter fraud goes on?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

let me ask you a question( or 2) first, do you think the only people that commit voter fraud are Dem's? and secondly, how much actual voter fraud goes on?

Nothing is exclusive to one party and who knows how much voter fraud goes on because we have no real checks and balance. I do know when I moved years back I voted totally by accident at the wrong polling place and they checked off my dads name like he had voted (same name). The only way I knew was when he went to vote they told him he had allready voted. There is something wrong with a system if they don't check any form of ID or have any way to track who is actually voting. Here is what's required in VA. They are not asking for much. To not have one of these forms of ID one would have to live isolated in the woods.

Acceptable forms of identification include the following:

• Virginia Voter Registration Card
• Valid Virginia driver's license
• Military ID
• Any Federal, Virginia state or local government-issued ID
• Employer issued photo ID card
• Concealed handgun permit
• Valid student ID issued by any institution of higher education located in the Commonwealth of Virginia
• Current utility bill, bank statement, government check or paycheck indicating the name and address of the voter
• Social Security card (*please see below as the social security card does not satisfy special federal ID requirements)

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Acceptable forms of identification include the following:

• Virginia Voter Registration Card
• Valid Virginia driver's license (Costs money)
• Military ID (selective and small base of people)
• Any Federal, Virginia state or local government-issued ID (Costs money)
• Employer issued photo ID card (rare and selective)
• Concealed handgun permit (Costs money)
• Valid student ID issued by any institution of higher education located in the Commonwealth of Virginia (Costs money)
• Current utility bill, bank statement, government check or paycheck indicating the name and address of the voter
• Social Security card (*please see below as the social security card does not satisfy special federal ID requirements)

Noted. So out of that whole group, really the only thing that is going to be useful without having to provide money or jump through a bunch of hoops is the utility bill/bank statement/gov check.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Noted. So out of that whole group, really the only thing that is going to be useful without having to provide money or jump through a bunch of hoops is the utility bill/bank statement/gov check.

Why would you pay for any of those if all you need was the FREE voter ID card? Also the SS card restriction is federal not state.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Why would you pay for any of those if all you need was the FREE voter ID card? Also the SS card restriction is federal not state.

Well, if the "Free" Id voter card requires items that COST money, then it really isn't free is it?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Well, if the "Free" Id voter card requires items that COST money, then it really isn't free is it?

Your argument is very weak at best. You don't even need an ID to obtain a Voter ID card.