Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

**** Landry, Carlos let himself go and RIP Mr. Taylor

All that said, I said before and I'll say again that I'd rather they had gone all out to get Carr from KC this off-season rather than Morgan, even Winston. I think you mask poor OL play much easier than you can mask poor DB play

Would have loved to pick up Carr, but do you think it's our DBs getting beat so bad or just being put into impossible situations? Overall, I've felt like our DBs have had some pretty decent coverage. We've had a few missed tackles, but when we give up short passes, it seems that everyone is wide open (including Wilson's side who I think is pretty good).

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Would have loved to pick up Carr, but do you think it's our DBs getting beat so bad or just being put into impossible situations? Overall, I've felt like our DBs have had some pretty decent coverage. We've had a few missed tackles, but when we give up short passes, it seems that everyone is wide open (including Wilson's side who I think is pretty good).

I still think the defense in general is not playing well. Pass rushing is iffy, LBs are getting abused by TEs, and the DBs are giving up way too much yardage in the pass three games.

In the end this falls on the coaches, esp the def coordinator.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still think the defense in general is not playing well. Pass rushing is iffy, LBs are getting abused by TEs, and the DBs are giving up way too much yardage in the pass three games.

In the end this falls on the coaches, esp the def coordinator.

I agree about the DBs, but for me, it's mostly coaching. I just feel like our playcalls have terrible timing. When we blitz, it's like we pick the worst possible formation to do it in. I understand you can't always predict what the other team is going to do, but sometimes they should have a defensive audible. I like the aggressiveness, but when it's 2nd and 20, I don't care if it's 3rd and 30, just make them punt!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Would have loved to pick up Carr, but do you think it's our DBs getting beat so bad or just being put into impossible situations? Overall, I've felt like our DBs have had some pretty decent coverage. We've had a few missed tackles, but when we give up short passes, it seems that everyone is wide open (including Wilson's side who I think is pretty good).

I think this type of defense is very dependent upon getting pressure up front. If you don't get pressure up front, you are going to be F'd.


If you look back at the Patriots when they were winning Super Bowls, you noticed their defense was incredible at the point of attack and LBs. It's a main reason why BB hasn't paid huge money to DBs, and a big reason why he let Asante Samuel walk. Vrabel, Seymour, Bruschi, McGinest, Coolvin, Johnson have all been beasts. The only DB to note on those squads is Ty Law, and Harrison was at the end of his career. I've always thought AS was overrated even back in NE. He jumped routes all the time and capitalized.


Right now, we simply aren't getting the pressure we need to up front and it shows.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I think this type of defense is very dependent upon getting pressure up front. If you don't get pressure up front, you are going to be F'd.


If you look back at the Patriots when they were winning Super Bowls, you noticed their defense was incredible at the point of attack and LBs. It's a main reason why BB hasn't paid huge money to DBs, and a big reason why he let Asante Samuel walk. Vrabel, Seymour, Bruschi, McGinest, Coolvin, Johnson have all been beasts. The only DB to note on those squads is Ty Law, and Harrison was at the end of his career. I've always thought AS was overrated even back in NE. He jumped routes all the time and capitalized.


Right now, we simply aren't getting the pressure we need to up front and it shows.

I can see that to a certain extent. Who do you think is the weak link? I only ask because we had a ton of sacks last year with essentially the same group.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I can see that to a certain extent. Who do you think is the weak link? I only ask because we had a ton of sacks last year with essentially the same group.

I personally think it's scheme to be honest with you. In 16 years of coaching, Haz has never coached a top 10 defense if I'm correct. (correction: he's had 1 year out of the 16 that his defense was in top 10) To be fair to Haslett though, it's been 11 years since he's ran the 3-4 in Pittsburgh. He's mostly ran the 4-3 the past decade. It probably is a huge reason why Haslett wasn't Shanny's first choice as DC. I would like to see our DL get more of a push up the middle though, but I understand those guys don't have the size that Haloti Ngata does, but it would be nice. Now, I definitely think we could upgrade at MLB, and I would rather see another versatile OLB instead of Orakpo to be honest with you.


Pittsburgh had the #2 rated defense in the league the year prior to Jim Haslett taking over. The following year, they dropped to #6, then to #12 in 1998, and finally to #11 his final year in 1999.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I personally think it's scheme to be honest with you. In 16 years of coaching, Haz has never coached a top 10 defense if I'm correct. (correction: he's had 1 year out of the 16 that his defense was in top 10) To be fair to Haslett though, it's been 11 years since he's ran the 3-4 in Pittsburgh. He's mostly ran the 4-3 the past decade. It probably is a huge reason why Haslett wasn't Shanny's first choice as DC. I would like to see our DL get more of a push up the middle though, but I understand those guys don't have the size that Haloti Ngata does, but it would be nice. Now, I definitely think we could upgrade at MLB, and I would rather see another versatile OLB instead of Orakpo to be honest with you.


Pittsburgh had the #2 rated defense in the league the year prior to Jim Haslett taking over. The following year, they dropped to #6, then to #12 in 1998, and finally to #11 his final year in 1999.

I think I agree. The only reason I have any pause is because I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's getting harder and harder. I mean when GW was here, we had Rogers/Hall/etc. and we'd all talk about Hall getting his ass beaten like a drum. I truly don't feel like that's happening as much this scheme is getting beaten. I mean last week, there were receivers running free. This week, the coverage was good, just bad play calls in my opinion.