2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Where are you getting your facts from MSNBC? Your points are just wrong about MR.

While he does support increasing defense spending its spread over 10 yrs and it does creat jobs.

To me thats not much different then Obama hiring more regulators. That creates jobs too. Either way tax payers are still paying for it. DOD jobs are slightly more tolerable then regulatory jobs, problem is with DOD it's almost impossible for the GOP to control their spending.

Pland Parenthood only provides birth control for around 3 million women at tops and is the leader for abortions.

I don't know if thats true but if it is 3 million women with birth control is a lot.

Mitt has said over and over he has no plans to change any thing as far as abortion laws. He has said it should be a stste issue not a federal issue.

He wants it to be a state issue because he knows a handful of states will outlaw it, particularly those in the Bible Belt. The Supreme Court won't overturn Roe vs Wade but they (GOP) do everything they can to make abortion more difficult like making women view the fetus via ultrasound before the procedure.

Stuff like non life saving late term abortions where the fetus has been proven to feel pain makes sense but early term/life at conception is clearly a religious belief that shouldn't be forced on everyone.

Roe vs Wade ironically enough is in accordance with the principals of freedom and liberty as everyone is allowed to choose their own path.

What rape laws deos he support. LOL

I wasn't specific enough on this. When I made this comment I was referring to the Franken Amendment where almost every Republican Senator voted against having rapist for defense contractors working overseas tried in a court of law instead of being mediated by the company. Obviously Romney nor Ryan was involved in this vote. This slight is aimed more at the GOP as a whole.

However Paul Ryan and his forcible rape amendment with Senator Akin doesn't help anything. I don't know why he backtracked with the "stock language" and "rape is rape" explanation but the fact that he was in that position to begin with is questionable. Again not a deal breaker and not saying Ryan is pro-rape, in fact it's great that he clarified, but shouldn't even be in a position to have to explain himself in the first place.

On this I'm not sure but Romney does seem better then most Republicans on the issue of protecting rape victims which isn't saying much given GOP standards.

He actual wants to increase education funding.

More details please. I might have misspoke on this one and am more then willing to admit that I was wrong.