Around the NFL...Week 4 Style

[SmootSmack]

People hold onto this myth that all these teams bring in a new coach, jump instantly from "worst to first" and sustain it. That's rarely ever true. It often takes years of building up the roster and often the staff that does the leg work isn't around to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

I love, love, love Gibbs and what he did both times here. But particularly the second time he didn't build the roster to win anything more than "now"

Three years ago Redskins fans complained we had no young talent at QB, no youth or depth at OL, no franchise QB, slow and old defensive line, no legit #1 WR, no draft picks.

We've got those things. And we should benefit long term from these moves. But since they aren't all Pro Bowlers an we're not coming off an NFC championship I guess they're all losers

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

People hold onto this myth that all these teams bring in a new coach, jump instantly from "worst to first" and sustain it. That's rarely ever true. It often takes years of building up the roster and often the staff that does the leg work isn't around to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

I love, love, love Gibbs and what he did both times here. But particularly the second time he didn't build the roster to win anything more than "now"

Three years ago Redskins fans complained we had no young talent at QB, no youth or depth at OL, no franchise QB, slow and old front office, no legit #1 WR, no draft picks.

We've got those things. And we shoukd benefit long term from these moves. But since they aren't all Pro Bowlers an we're not coming off an NFC championship I guess they're all losers

boom roasted

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

People hold onto this myth that all these teams bring in a new coach, jump instantly from "worst to first" and sustain it. That's rarely ever true. It often takes years of building up the roster and often the staff that does the leg work isn't around to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

Three years ago Redskins fans complained we had no young talent at QB, no youth or depth at OL, no franchise QB, slow and old defensive line, no legit #1 WR, no draft picks.

We've got those things. And we should benefit long term from these moves. But since they aren't all Pro Bowlers an we're not coming off an NFC championship I guess they're all losers

The problem is that the Redskins really don't have these things now, especially draft picks. Our no. 1 receiver thus far has been Aldrick Robinson. Our defensive line is average and stocked with players who have been around 6 to 7 years. Our offensive line doesn't even have enough depth to start NFL quality players at the tackle position.

To show for the limited draft picks over the next two drafts, we have RG3. And Kirk Cousins. And Alfred Morris. That's it.

The idea that we're somehow in better long term position because of this variation of a below average football team instead of the last four variations is just total bunk. You can't just assume that the future justifies the present. Go off what the tape and the numbers tell you instead of blind faith.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The problem is that the Redskins really don't have these things now, especially draft picks.

??

So were are missing 2 draft picks out of the next two years and all of a sudden we are "don't have these things"??

Amazing.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The problem is that the Redskins really don't have these things now, especially draft picks. Our no. 1 receiver thus far has been Aldrick Robinson. Our defensive line is average and stocked with players who have been around 6 to 7 years. Our offensive line doesn't even have enough depth to start NFL quality players at the tackle position.

To show for the limited draft picks over the next two drafts, we have RG3. And Kirk Cousins. And Alfred Morris. That's it.

The idea that we're somehow in better long term position because of this variation of a below average football team instead of the last four variations is just total bunk. You can't just assume that the future justifies the present. Go off what the tape and the numbers tell you instead of blind faith.

Gettis, McRib, Compton, Crawford? Already given up on these guys?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gettis, McRib, Compton, Crawford? Already given up on these guys?

It's not about giving up this draft or the next draft or my evaluation of any of those players, which is way across the board. It's about what the Redskins were willing to give up for what they have gotten.

What we've seen in three games is that the Redskins can still be not that great of a team in spite of the performance of RG3. Which is what we could/should have learned in the Campbell era. But didn't, apparently.

If things are bound to get better, they will get better in short time, starting today. If they don't, then they won't. More time cannot fix incompetence.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's not about giving up this draft or the next draft or my evaluation of any of those players, which is way across the board. It's about what the Redskins were willing to give up for what they have gotten.

What we've seen in three games is that the Redskins can still be not that great of a team in spite of the performance of RG3. Which is what we could/should have learned in the Campbell era. But didn't, apparently.

If things are bound to get better, they will get better in short time, starting today. If they don't, then they won't. More time cannot fix incompetence.

Huh? you specifically pointed to the draft and "all we have to show for it". What more do you want to have to show for one draft? 5 pro bowl players? ensured long term success forever? From this draft we got, apparently, a Franchise qb, a Shanahan RB, a promising DB in Crawford, and other potentials. The next two drafts we are missing our 1st round picks, but the rest of the draft board is full, and we have seen quality play from a couple late round picks in each of the Shanallen era.

Then you say that the Skins can't be that great team in spite of RG3's performance even though our offense is #6, and we lead the league in scoring. How that is in any way comparable to the JC years is mind blowing to me.

Incompetence? We lost two primary starters on the D and have reasonable backups to come in, and had Jenkins not suffered the ACL last year, we might not have missed a beat. We have been building depth while trying to find a qb solution. I think it's harsh to be talking about incompetence.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Huh? you specifically pointed to the draft and "all we have to show for it". What more do you want to have to show for one draft? 5 pro bowl players? ensured long term success forever? From this draft we got, apparently, a Franchise qb, a Shanahan RB, a promising DB in Crawford, and other potentials. The next two drafts we are missing our 1st round picks, but the rest of the draft board is full, and we have seen quality play from a couple late round picks in each of the Shanallen era.

Then you say that the Skins can't be that great team in spite of RG3's performance even though our offense is #6, and we lead the league in scoring. How that is in any way comparable to the JC years is mind blowing to me.

Incompetence? We lost two primary starters on the D and have reasonable backups to come in, and had Jenkins not suffered the ACL last year, we might not have missed a beat. We have been building depth while trying to find a qb solution. I think it's harsh to be talking about incompetence.

I just ignore him lol. You can type 4 paragraphs of opionated gibberish. Doesnt make you look smarter.