Redskins vs Bucs Post Game Reaction

[SmootSmack]

Recapping Redskins Win over Buccaneers in Saved By the Bell Animated Gifs - Hogs Haven

[The Goat]

Play-calling was most definitely an issue in the 2nd half, and in combo with the secondary it allowed the Bucs back in the game. I don't remember a single deep pass in the 2nd half. Not that we're connecting on a lot, but the threat of it is worth the risk, and even if it's picked the field position on a deep pick isn't scary like a turnover near the LOS.

Bottom line is if we're going to have any chance of winning a few more games (looking at the schedule) this offense, and I'm referring to coaching/play-calling here, needs to put 4 quarters of football together. Since week 1 I think we've seen about two good quarters from the offense in each game.

Obviously the same goes for defense, but I don't wanna seem greedy

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think they were content at all. Are you saying they should have gone deep or something?

They ran the ball twice i believe. They certainly looked content to me. I dont think deep was imperative. We had almost two minutes. Im sayin metriculate the ball down the field. There was an obvious difference between the two min drive at the half and the one at the end of the game rite?? There was urgency at the end and pressure beyond belief and rg3 went down and got points. If we had urgency at the end of half maybe the game would have been in the bag. Credskin you said we knew we were gettin the ball in the second half. So what though? Is it a crime to pour it on. Lol. We also knew our d was probably going to come back down to earth in the second half.

[imaskin4life]

Originally Posted by punch it in

They ran the ball twice i believe. They certainly looked content to me. I dont think deep was imperative. We had almost two minutes. Im sayin metriculate the ball down the field. There was an obvious difference between the two min drive at the half and the one at the end of the game rite?? There was urgency at the end and pressure beyond belief and rg3 went down and got points. If we had urgency at the end of half maybe the game would have been in the bag. Credskin you said we knew we were gettin the ball in the second half. So what though? Is it a crime to pour it on. Lol. We also knew our d was probably going to come back down to earth in the second half.

I like that kind of aggression, especially when the other team seems to be playing in a "prevent" defense but sometimes conservative play calling has its place. I was personally dissappointed to see us go conservative at the end of the half but I understood that they were probably concerned about the possibility of stopping the clock and giving TB just enough time to score 3 or 6 on our weak defense just before the end of the half.

I agree that with RG3 we should certainly stay more aggressive than usual but to ALWAYS stay aggressive is going overboard. It is the inverse of being too conservative.

If there was any lack of confidence from MS/KS in RG3's ability to run the 2 minute drill before this game I would be willing to bet that they are CERTAINLY more confident now, after the two-minute drill at the end when the headset failed. I don't think there is enough evidence to have reason for concern there.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by imaskin4life

I agree that with RG3 we should certainly stay more aggressive than usual but to ALWAYS stay aggressive is going overboard. It is the inverse of being too conservative.

Yes - when we have a lead of two touchdowns and there is under 5 minutes to play it is ok to take your foot off the pedal and milk the clock. Or of course if your backed up on your own one and its a close game you may want to go conservative and live to fight another day - agreed conservative has its place
yeah how great was that two min drive man? holy cannolis

[imaskin4life]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes - when we have a lead of two touchdowns and there is under 5 minutes to play it is ok to take your foot off the pedal and milk the clock. Or of course if your backed up on your own one and its a close game you may want to go conservative and live to fight another day - agreed conservative has its place
yeah how great was that two min drive man? holy cannolis

It's been great every time he does it - rams, bengals, and bucs. every time

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Agitated posting begets agitated posting. And some posts ARE just totally ***ing idiotic. Not saying I agree in this particular case (or not) but in general I think when bad ideas are brought up they should be pointed out.

Its all opinion for the most part bro. So i dont think anything is an "idiotic idea". I mean if you are going to say grossman is better than rg3 than thats one thing. What we have on this board are people who believe the skins are on the rite track and people who think they may not be. However we all Hope they are and if it wasnt for some minor differences in opinion or thought this would be a terribly boring place to visit. So instead of people wAnting to twist words around and go to extremes maybe we can just listen - digest - and agree or disagree. I mean Bucket just because People want to see the skins try and get points everytime they have the ball with two mins left does not mean we play madden and want to throw three bombs. Lol

[JoeRedskin]

Okay. Slowly emerging from the debbie downers to enjoy the victory. While I long for a game ending "Victory Formation". I don't think we will be seeing one of those for a bit and shouldn't have expected it.

We lost our best D player and someone who the D was intended to be built around. If he was still playing, I think we are 3-1 and this game was nearly as close. Who knows.

On offense, sorry. Anyone calling for MS or KS heads right now, are you seeing the point production I am? Sure, the D's we've been playing have not been the best in the league, but they aren't exactly pansies either. TBay was the number 1 rush defense (admittedly in part b/c their back end is as bad as ours) - we handled them. The offense is working and working well. We have had four games of 24 points or more. Let me say that again - FOUR GAMES OF 24 POINTS OR MORE. I cannot remember that happening. The number of hits on Griff was substantially reduced this week. The line, still a weak point, is (seemingly) playing better as the season goes on. The coaches are putting RGIII in a position produce points and possibly win the game, and he is doing more than we could have expected a rookie to do. Not as much as we maybe hoped, but more than we had a right to expect. He's both physically and mentally tougher than anyone gave him credit for at the beginning of the year. All those stories we drooled over about his character barely scratched the surface.

The D needs to tighten up. If it can, we can win more games than we lose. I don't know if it can, b/c I don't know if it has the personnel to play the type of pressure D MS/JH want it to do and I don't know if MS/JH know how to adjust for the loss of Orakpo and Carriker.

As others have said, we simply aren't good enough to blow teams out. Maybe by the back-end of the season, our O starts being the scary good it can be. Maybe, by the back end of the season, some of the young O-line can step up. I got nothing on D except prayers that JH has a come-to-Jesus moment and gets it turned around.

From this point on, except for the Cleveland game, I don't see us favored to beat anyone on the schedule (maybe the Panthers at home). I think we stealing a few that we should lose and maybe, just maybe, break .500 mark. All the NFC East teams are flawed and I don't think anyone in the Division is unbeatable.

It's early, we have a tough schedule and our D needs to get it's sh** together. We have a long ways to go, hopefully, it is exciting football all the way to the final Dallas game.

HTTR

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Okay. Slowly emerging from the debbie downers to enjoy the victory. While I long for a game ending "Victory Formation". I don't think we will be seeing one of those for a bit and shouldn't have expected it.

We lost our best D player and someone who the D was intended to be built around. If he was still playing, I think we are 3-1 and this game was nearly as close. Who knows.

On offense, sorry. Anyone calling for MS or KS heads right now, are you seeing the point production I am? Sure, the D's we've been playing have not been the best in the league, but they aren't exactly pansies either. TBay was the number 1 rush defense (admittedly in part b/c their back end is as bad as ours) - we handled them. The offense is working and working well. We have had four games of 24 points or more. Let me say that again - FOUR GAMES OF 24 POINTS OR MORE. I cannot remember that happening. The number of hits on Griff was substantially reduced this week. The line, still a weak point, is (seemingly) playing better as the season goes on. The coaches are putting RGIII in a position produce points and possibly win the game, and he is doing more than we could have expected a rookie to do. Not as much as we maybe hoped, but more than we had a right to expect. He's both physically and mentally tougher than anyone gave him credit for at the beginning of the year. All those stories we drooled over about his character barely scratched the surface.

The D needs to tighten up. If it can, we can win more games than we lose. I don't know if it can, b/c I don't know if it has the personnel to play the type of pressure D MS/JH want it to do and I don't know if MS/JH know how to adjust for the loss of Orakpo and Carriker.

As others have said, we simply aren't good enough to blow teams out. Maybe by the back-end of the season, our O starts being the scary good it can be. Maybe, by the back end of the season, some of the young O-line can step up. I got nothing on D except prayers that JH has a come-to-Jesus moment and gets it turned around.

From this point on, except for the Cleveland game, I don't see us favored to beat anyone on the schedule (maybe the Panthers at home). I think we stealing a few that we should lose and maybe, just maybe, break .500 mark. All the NFC East teams are flawed and I don't think anyone in the Division is unbeatable.

It's early, we have a tough schedule and our D needs to get it's sh** together. We have a long ways to go, hopefully, it is exciting football all the way to the final Dallas game.

HTTR

Yes sir. If we get the pass defense to play at an above average level this team could make the playoffs and then who knows what might happen. Not saying we can't do it this year but one more year of draft and shuffling FA we should be playoff bound and anything less unacceptable.

[JoeRedskin]

As for those calling for Cooley - I'm just not seeing it, Paul makes a clutch catch, makes some good kick off returns and is, otherwise, a beast on ST. I haven't seen large portions of a couple of the games, has he had the dropsies? It seems to me he hasn't been targeted but that Keim and a couple other beat writers have said his blocking is more than adequate. Not sure what Cooley adds as a recieving threat or blocker that isn't better spent on Paul getting a full season under his belt at a new position.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

As for those calling for Cooley - I'm just not seeing it, Paul makes a clutch catch, makes some good kick off returns and is, otherwise, a beast on ST. I haven't seen large portions of a couple of the games, has he had the dropsies? It seems to me he hasn't been targeted but that Keim and a couple other beat writers have said his blocking is more than adequate. Not sure what Cooley adds as a recieving threat or blocker that isn't better spent on Paul getting a full season under his belt at a new position.

yes on the dropsies - and i believe he had a really dumb penalty at a somewhat crucial moment yesterday - i forget rite now.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

yes on the dropsies - and i believe he had a really dumb penalty at a somewhat crucial moment yesterday - i forget rite now.

I don't know about the dropsies. According to the stats, he has been targeted 5 times and caught 4. The one incomplete pass was on 2nd and 11 in the 2nd Q of yesterday's game. I didn't see it so I don't know if it was a catchable ball. It was two plays before the missed 41 yard field goal.

I DID see his clutch catch for 30 yards, with a defender on him and the ball high.

Don't know about the penalty. Would Cooley have been targeted more? Been a better blocker? Certainly, he wasn't gonna be playing on special teams. I just don't see it.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I don't know about the dropsies. According to the stats, he has been targeted 5 times and caught 4. The one incomplete pass was on 2nd and 11 in the 2nd Q of yesterday's game. I didn't see it so I don't know if it was a catchable ball. It was two plays before the missed 41 yard field goal.

I DID see his clutch catch for 30 yards, with a defender on him and the ball high.

Don't know about the penalty. Would Cooley have been targeted more? Been a better blocker? Certainly, he wasn't gonna be playing on special teams. I just don't see it.

People need to be fair about the drop though. Paul had to go up and got the ball with full extension, and as he was bringing it in, a DB smacked him pretty hard in the hands dislodging the ball. It wasnt like it hit him in his chest with no one near him. He probably should have caught it, but to make it out to be an easy catch as some are doing is far from the truth.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I don't know about the dropsies. According to the stats, he has been targeted 5 times and caught 4. The one incomplete pass was on 2nd and 11 in the 2nd Q of yesterday's game. I didn't see it so I don't know if it was a catchable ball. It was two plays before the missed 41 yard field goal.

I DID see his clutch catch for 30 yards, with a defender on him and the ball high.

Don't know about the penalty. Would Cooley have been targeted more? Been a better blocker? Certainly, he wasn't gonna be playing on special teams. I just don't see it.

Niles Paul dropped a ball that hit him right in his mitts.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Niles Paul dropped a ball that hit him right in his mitts.

He did but i'm still a fan of his potential and speed! Dudes got talent