Redskins vs Bucs Post Game Reaction

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

For the ones who have pointed about how crappy the bucs are and how we are doomed once the NFC east schedule comes up (mainly in the already closed thread). Remember that crappy bucs team played the gints to a 7 point loss and the cowgirls to a 6 point loss. And we won by 2 with 2 missed FG's (3 if you count the 57 yarder).

Was pretty disappointed in Hazlett today. As much as everyone wants to blame hall for TJax's receptions, one was a perfect pass that Hall missed by an inch or two on close to perfect coverage. He had TJax covered very well and Freeman made a pass he normally cant, a perfect one. But what has me wondering whats up is that you never let a top notch receiver (one with height especially) have deep releases without a safety over the top late in a close game. I still cant for the life of me understand why TJax was running one on one with Hall and we didnt have a safety over the top on those late deep routes.

Do we really need to say much about the game RG3 had? All the times ive drooled over Brady, Rodgers, and Peyton. Not anymore... Young and gifted is better than old and gifted. WOW....

This isn't really halls fault but our safeties have no range in coverage whatsoever. But today neither Hall nor Wilson could cover very much. Not one person in our secondary had a good game today.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This isn't really halls fault but our safeties have no range in coverage whatsoever. But today neither Hall nor Wilson could cover very much. Not one person in our secondary had a good game today.

Im not going to say he was great every play, but you cant get better coverage on some of those than he had today. That one throw by Freeman was perfect, just barely out of reach of Halls outstretched arm, and TJax still had to reach for it himself. A perfect pass will not be stopped by Revis and Ed Reed in double coverage.

As for Range in coverage, 2 deep already has them deep and if they only see one receiver going deep to their side, its an easy read to get there. And since our pass coverage took 5-7 seconds for our rush, the secondary should have given up 400 yards through the air. You do know our defense has 11 players, not 4.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Im not going to say he was great every play, but you cant get better coverage on some of those than he had today. That one throw by Freeman was perfect, just barely out of reach of Halls outstretched arm, and TJax still had to reach for it himself. A perfect pass will not be stopped by Revis and Ed Reed in double coverage.

As for Range in coverage, 2 deep already has them deep and if they only see one receiver going deep to their side, its an easy read to get there. And since our pass coverage took 5-7 seconds for our rush, the secondary should have given up 400 yards through the air. You do know our defense has 11 players, not 4.

The word separation gets over-used. In the NFL, it's about finding single coverage and putting the ball where the receiver can make a play. D-Hall had good coverage, but receivers in single coverage should win most of the time if the ball is thrown well. Any corner would have been toast on that play.

Hankerson had a similar play but mis-timed his jump, barely got off the ground and looked ridiculous trying to make the catch. A lot of receivers would have at least made a better play on the ball. The good ones would have made the catch.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

The word separation gets over-used. In the NFL, it's about finding single coverage and putting the ball where the receiver can make a play. D-Hall had good coverage, but receivers in single coverage should win most of the time if the ball is thrown well. Any corner would have been toast on that play.

Hankerson had a similar play but mis-timed his jump, barely got off the ground and looked ridiculous trying to make the catch. A lot of receivers would have at least made a better play on the ball. The good ones would have made the catch.

Yeah I saw that from Hank. It was late on that long pass where the announcers were saying they should be running to take time off the clock. Hank slowed down to try and undercut the CB then out jump him. Had he kept running, thats probably a complete pass since he came up several yards short. And yeah, he looked pretty bad on that one, terrible adjustment to the ball in the air.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Hankerson had a similar play but mis-timed his jump, barely got off the ground and looked ridiculous trying to make the catch. A lot of receivers would have at least made a better play on the ball. The good ones would have made the catch.

I'm glad someone else noticed this. Both Hank and Niles Paul have the ability to make it look as though Griff just threw a slightly "off" pass, when the fact is that they don't have a knack for finding the ball and grabbing it.

Speaking of WRs, is Garcon really a douche? I was liking the fact that the Shans had gotten rid of our knuckleheads, and then along comes this BS. Seriously, what's his rep in the league?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

There's something very concerning about missing a 31 yard FG. I feel like NFL caliber kickers need to be money 45 yards and under. Scrub college kids can make 31 yard kicks.

I don't care if we don't have a kicker who can't kick from 50+. 45 yards and under though? That should always be a gimme.

Sure. Or coach can man up and go for it making the kicker irrelevant.

[ethat001]

RG3 is a beast. The last drive RG3 even called his own plays, since his headset was out. Calm, poised. Every game seems like a different game plan, can't wait to see him with the full play book out there (and passing in red zone instead of running). Best thing is his accuracy and lack of interceptions. Need to work on fumbles however..

WTF with Merrriweather / Robinson? So strange..

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by ethat001

RG3 is a beast. The last drive RG3 even called his own plays, since his headset was out. Calm, poised. Every game seems like a different game plan, can't wait to see him with the full play book out there (and passing in red zone instead of running). Best thing is his accuracy and lack of interceptions. Need to work on fumbles however..

WTF with Merrriweather / Robinson? So strange..

Let's not forget the hard count, he set TB offsides 3 times and he was so good he even had Lichtensteiger jump offsides once.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Im not going to say he was great every play, but you cant get better coverage on some of those than he had today. That one throw by Freeman was perfect, just barely out of reach of Halls outstretched arm, and TJax still had to reach for it himself. A perfect pass will not be stopped by Revis and Ed Reed in double coverage.

As for Range in coverage, 2 deep already has them deep and if they only see one receiver going deep to their side, its an easy read to get there. And since our pass coverage took 5-7 seconds for our rush, the secondary should have given up 400 yards through the air. You do know our defense has 11 players, not 4.

The receivers route can always be disrupted. Then there is no such thing as a perfect pass. And Hall had help most of the day. It isn't his fault that the help often didn't get there, but c'mon, it's a weekly occurrence with Hall. He got a pick today, so good for him. He is what he is.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The receivers route can always be disrupted. Then there is no such thing as a perfect pass. And Hall had help most of the day. It isn't his fault that the help often didn't get there, but c'mon, it's a weekly occurrence with Hall. He got a pick today, so good for him. He is what he is.

Disrupting a route only makes no perfect pass if its a timing route. Those werent timing routes. Those were Freeman standing in the pocket without pressure and hitting a deep pass. If the Skins were getting pressure then those jams make a difference, if not, not so much.

Hall may be what he is, but he covered well today. Hatred is an easy thing to blind people, but give him credit where credit is due. He played pretty good today. Revis isnt stopping that pass to TJax without help, and people would chalk it up to good coverage, but a perfect pass.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Disrupting a route only makes no perfect pass if its a timing route. Those werent timing routes. Those were Freeman standing in the pocket without pressure and hitting a deep pass. If the Skins were getting pressure then those jams make a difference, if not, not so much.

Hall may be what he is, but he covered well today. Hatred is an easy thing to blind people, but give him credit where credit is due. He played pretty good today. Revis isnt stopping that pass to TJax without help, and people would chalk it up to good coverage, but a perfect pass.

Except the part where our 15 point lead evaporated, Hall covered pretty well.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Except the part where our 15 point lead evaporated, Hall covered pretty well.

Oh, now we went from our defense only having 4 players to now only having 1. Do you people even watch football?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Except the part where our 15 point lead evaporated, Hall covered pretty well.

The 15 point lead should have been a 21 point lead. The O looks good until they get a big lead. We're finally scoring TDs in the red zone. Next step is learning to play with the lead/closing teams out. I believe we're ahead of the curve and will be the team to beat in the NFC East in 2-3 years.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

The 15 point lead should have been a 21 point lead. The O looks good until they get a big lead. We're finally scoring TDs in the red zone. Next step is learning to play with the lead/closing teams out. I believe we're ahead of the curve and will be the team to beat in the NFC East in 2-3 years.

I think* our "problem" on offense is that we aren't terribly expansive in what we do week to week because we have a rookie cb. Now that QB is awesome and makes up for a lack of offensive diversity but defenses seems to be adjusting during games and boxing us in. This will change as the year goes on. Imagine what Bob is gonna be like in a few years when his command of this offense is second nature.

[GTripp0012]

I'd bet anything that the coaches tape shows Hall getting beat by a lot and simple pitch and catch on the throw. I know it wouldn't change your mind either way. You can just tell with some people.