Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

[That Guy]

he's either a little better or just as crappy as gano. if we're firing him, we need to bring in a GOOD kicker, not just replacement trash - that won't help us. there isn't an upgrade sitting at home right now, just more of the same.

[Mechanix544]

Has anyone even tried returning a kick on us this frikkin year? Cundiff is our best defensive ST player. That has a huge value. The guy obviously has some leg, kicking it into the stands on kickoffs. I say give him another chance. He has only really missed 2 FG's this year, and he DID make a game winner that was over 40 yards. He'll be just fine, and I'm sure he is still an upgrade after gano. That guy was just trash. Just because he was young and the skins brought him in, alot of Redskins fans have loyalty to him, ie wanting him to succeed so bad they overlook his shittiness. Even with the two misses, Cundiff is still better than gano.

[Bucket]

No.

[firstdown]

No one was bitching when he made all 4 against the Saints. Not sure why he can put the kick offs out of the endzone but can't make a long FG.

[SBXVII]

Personally everyone can have a bad day. If his misses continue then bring in someone else.

On a side note.... who do we bring in as the replacement? Gano? perhaps, D.Smith had to set the coaching staff right I've heard and pointed out that it was not Gano's fault for most of the kicks last year, the fault lied in the OL for not blocking.

So besides Gano who does the team bring in? are there any Rookie kickers out their with strong legs? or perhaps in the CFL?

[saden1]

Man, I never thought I would ever prefer Gano over anyone but missing 40 and under field-goals for a vet and a pro is inexcusable. If Billyboy misses another gimmie kick you have to cut him during the game.

[vallin21]

Here's my problem(s) with Cundiff

- He's too consistently inconsistent; more so than Gano was IMO
- I'll give him a pass on the 57 yarder, but when you miss a 31 yard kick, that is unforgivable.
- He made the kick but as many have mentioned; 1 yard back, he misses, and we're 2-2
- Lastly, when people say "he made the kick that counted", while that's true, he missed 3 others before that. If he makes just 1 of those kicks we might not have discussion. You can't ignore or dismiss, the 3 prior misses, knowing that if we were just a yard back from missing.

Bottom Line: Whether it's Gano or whoever; I would like the FO to bring in a few K's. Any K can lose a game; but Cundiff has lost several in his career. We need to take a look at K's if he has another bad game this wk.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Here's my problem(s) with Cundiff

- He's too consistently inconsistent; more so than Gano was IMO
- I'll give him a pass on the 57 yarder, but when you miss a 31 yard kick, that is unforgivable.
- He made the kick but as many have mentioned; 1 yard back, he misses, and we're 2-2
- Lastly, when people say "he made the kick that counted", while that's true, he missed 3 others before that. If he makes just 1 of those kicks we might not have discussion. You can't ignore or dismiss, the 3 prior misses, knowing that if we were just a yard back from missing.

Bottom Line: Whether it's Gano or whoever; I would like the FO to bring in a few K's. Any K can lose a game; but Cundiff has lost several in his career. We need to take a look at K's if he has another bad game this wk.

If the offense actually scores a TD in one of those three offensive series that ended in a missed field goal, we might not have a discussion either.

We can't have a crappy kicking game and I am sure Cundiff is going to be in a short leash, however our defense just has to score TDs. To me that's the big picture.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Here's my problem(s) with Cundiff

- He's too consistently inconsistent; more so than Gano was IMO
- I'll give him a pass on the 57 yarder, but when you miss a 31 yard kick, that is unforgivable.
- He made the kick but as many have mentioned; 1 yard back, he misses, and we're 2-2
- Lastly, when people say "he made the kick that counted", while that's true, he missed 3 others before that. If he makes just 1 of those kicks we might not have discussion. You can't ignore or dismiss, the 3 prior misses, knowing that if we were just a yard back from missing.

Bottom Line: Whether it's Gano or whoever; I would like the FO to bring in a few K's. Any K can lose a game; but Cundiff has lost several in his career. We need to take a look at K's if he has another bad game this wk.

right before he missed that one, i was thinking about the ravens game. hopefully he tightens up and erases all doubt

[FRPLG]

Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?

No.

Average d coordinators adjust the scheme and tweak the overall game-plan throughout the game to put their players in the best position to defend what the offense is bringing on the next down, next series, next quarter. I haven't seen Haslett do this. He tends to adjust at half-time, and not always get that right.
Good d coordinators make adjustments at least every series, and get most of them right.
Great d coordinators force the offense to adjust to the defense!

Lousy d coordinators make fewer adjustments and get fewer right. See: Haslett, James.

Specifically, Haslett let the secondary get torched by Danny freaking Amendola for nearly a half without putting a safety over the top on every play to shut em down!!! Why the eff did we go out and sign DL free agents, draft another and two top OLBs in the last two years if not to have a consistent front seven? And the guys standing in for Rak are getting pressures and sacks. Oh, yeah, a guy name London Fletcher plays in that bunch too. So give your hobbit DBs a hand out there when they face AJ Green, or a hot-handed VJax. And enough with the suicide stunts, a$$hole.

Well geez I've thought forever Wade was in Denver then and nobody said boo, was it after then? One of the DCs Mike canned in the post-Elway years? That might explain it then...but bottom line, if not Wade find another guy who can give our defense a chance to consistently compete with it's athleticism, toughness and pride. Because we're not lacking in guys who can win if given the chance to compete. Hell, even our hobbit DBs have been hitting guys in the mouth pretty solid (this is not Hall, or Hall vs Wilson argument starter, leave it). And that's really the only group you should have to compensate for, having spent a good bit of time and resources on the front seven. So figure it the eff out JHaz.

[imaskin4life]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?

In terms of the talent issues, It's mostly the safety play. We basically have the same corners as last year. Look at the results we had last year. The difference is that we had a former pro bowler at FS and a quality SS in landry last year. Now we have the backup's backups starting for us at those positions and they are frequently out of position. There are some scheme issues there too in certain situations but the biggest problem is FS/SS.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?

I agree. While I'm not a huge Haslett fan I don't think anyone would be able to make our secondary look like all-stars.

For everyone that was crying about play calling on offense last year, how's it look now that we have a QB that can run pretty much anything you ask him to? No amount of scheme was able to cover up the glaring lack of talent at QB, and we're seeing the same thing now in the secondary. If you don't have the horses you can't win the race. Simple.

[Ruhskins]

I don't think many DCs could come to the Skins and turn this defense into a top 5/top 10 in the league. This defense has a LOT of holes and needs talent period. However, I feel that our current DC doesn't do a good job at adjusting and compensating for those deficiencies. I've seen people that know a hell of a lot more football on Twitter talk about Haslett's inability to adjust.

In comparing both units, up until last year, the defense has always had the better players. And upon MS' arrival, the team spent picks/money on defensive players. Losing Orakpo and Carriker has been a HUGE blow to the defense, but some of the issues that we are having on defense have to do a lot with coaching.

[DynamiteRave]

I'm always iffy on Cundiff after he blew the Ravens AFC Championship chances last year, missing a... what do ya know... 31 yard FG.

Russian roulette.

But if this is the best we've got then... C'est la vie.