Whats up with the D-Line?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Bucket

A lot of people blame Haslett, and maybe he is to blame. I don't hold account though.. Check this blog for all you Haslett haters.

HTTR24-7-Skins Podcasts & Blog – Film Sessions: Haslett vs LeBeau Battle Of The 3-4

Super detailed analysis of the defensive scheme. More than anything it show how predictable Haslett has made the defense, which almost guarantees its poor performance since the Lebeau 3-4 is based on unpredictability i.e. forcing the offense to adjust to the defense.

The blogger's contrast between Haslett's (over)use of DB/safety blitzes compared to LB and A gap blitzes is probably overemphasized, because we've all seen Troy P blitz from every angle. The Steelers do a far better job of disguising the blitz and mixing up the point of extra pressure.

And the other big story is we're still better suited, personnel wise, for a tradition 4-3 defense anyway, while the Steelers have the personnel to run Lebeau's 3-4.

Haslett is a mediocre at best coach, but he's really not the problem. He didn't force the change to a 3-4 and then fail to acquire the defensive players necessary to make it work...Mike and Bruce did.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Bucket

A lot of people blame Haslett, and maybe he is to blame. I don't hold account though.. Check this blog for all you Haslett haters.

HTTR24-7-Skins Podcasts & Blog – Film Sessions: Haslett vs LeBeau Battle Of The 3-4

Coach Haz isn't the problem. The problem is obviously the personnel. DeAngelo Hall is soft in coverage. He does play well at times, but he's never been able to shut down a elite NFL receiver since he's played for the Redskins. Coach Haz is one of the better defensive coordinators in the NFL. The Redskins didn't jump from a 31st ranked standing in 2010 to a 13th ranked standing in 2011 for nothing. The personnel changed. Orakpo and Carriker is gone for the year on IR, but that shouldn't stop the defensive unit from progressing. Haz has had to coordinate the defense without his best players in the lineup while other players in the unit have underperformed.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Coach Haz isn't the problem. The problem is obviously the personnel. DeAngelo Hall is soft in coverage. He does play well at times, but he's never been able to shut down a elite NFL receiver since he's played for the Redskins. Coach Haz is one of the better defensive coordinators in the NFL. The Redskins didn't jump from a 31st ranked standing in 2010 to a 13th ranked standing in 2011 for nothing. The personnel changed. Orakpo and Carriker is gone for the year on IR, but that shouldn't stop the defensive unit from progressing. Haz has had to coordinate the defense without his best players in the lineup while other players in the unit have underperformed.

Orakpo and Carriker are not reasons why our D sucks. It wasnt that good last year either look at last year it only did good against teams with horrible offenses and we got destroyed but good offensive teams. Our D ranking was overrated.


We suck because we have a bunch of 4-3 players via like London- Chris Wilson-Cofield-Kerrigan-Orakpo-and even our secondary pretty much all of them played under a 4-3 D at there best .

We are just misusing them ....Cofield is an inconsistent guy at NT you have Carriker who is a good run stopper but not that good of a pass rusher and Bowen will be good two games than is gone for the next 5 . You have London who coverage skills declined, you have Orakpo who is inconsistent , Kerrigan is getting better than you have our secondary 10 yards away and never do pressman to man .

We have no safeties .

We should go 4-3 or hire a much better 3-4 personal. Thats just how it is ..Orakpo and Carriker are not BIG diff guys and its fine not alot of teams have that. A big factor guy is Sean Taylor when we had him but he left or if Ed Reed left the ravens the secondary wouldn't be the same.

Point is we overrated out front 7 big time and match that with ahorrible DC your D will be ranked 30-31 . But this is Mikes fault for two things.

1: CHanging the 4-3 D to a 3-4 with no 3-4 type of players
2: And hiring one of the worsrt DC you can have.


He now wants Raheem Morris as the DC but wouldn't it be smarter to put him Raheem as a 4-3 DC and not a 3-4? Raheem has learned under the great Monte Kiffin for tampa 2 defense and we will ignore that to a 3-4. Shanny can leave people will bring up rg3 and morris but what else? our D is horrible and we only progressed in TO TD's and we also have no Cap and our WR CORE done nothing since Saints game . Im sorry guys for being truthful but we also traded alot of picks and our QB is already injured because Shanny hired his son to do Baylor offense. We do not need to do that at all and dont be fooled we only played HORRIBLE defenses the whole year. ATL stopped our passing very nicely and now we play Minny who will give us the hardest trouble on offense and defense.


I want Shanny gone I think our O is overrated for now simply because we have had no defense to go up against . I think RG3 and Morris are good as hell tho but we should of adressed RB year 1 and QB year 1.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

He now wants Raheem Morris as the DC <snip>

Where are you hearing that?

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Where are you hearing that?

ES skins insider. Imma take there word for it but he did turn down Minny for the DC job to sooner or later take the DC job from Haslett. Thats what they say but makes sense .

That Smoot guy probably cann tell you that too idk. I just want this team to win. Nationals are on the level of Capitals for disappointing me.

[CRedskinsRule]

Dear Goat et al,

I get it:
you don't like the team's direction under Shanahan.
And you have alot of evidence on your side.
And this is an open internet forum where you can say pretty much anything

got it. I will tell you its frustrating coming on here and seeing the same rehash of every negative associated with the past 20 years of the Skins. I currently am not using the ignore feature because I like hearing everyone's opinions but its getting to that point with your incessant negativity that I either put you on it or I don't read the warpath as often. kinda an easy choice from that standpoint.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Dear Goat et al,

I get it:
you don't like the team's direction under Shanahan.
And you have alot of evidence on your side.
And this is an open internet forum where you can say pretty much anything

got it. I will tell you its frustrating coming on here and seeing the same rehash of every negative associated with the past 20 years of the Skins. I currently am not using the ignore feature because I like hearing everyone's opinions but its getting to that point with your incessant negativity that I either put you on it or I don't read the warpath as often. kinda an easy choice from that standpoint.

CRed I like your style bro: straight and to the point. I use the ignore feature regularly, and it makes TWP "experience" even better!

Come out and say hello from time to time...there's cake!

(I just watched some Jim Gaffigan lol)

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Dear Goat et al,

I get it:
you don't like the team's direction under Shanahan.
And you have alot of evidence on your side.
And this is an open internet forum where you can say pretty much anything

got it. I will tell you its frustrating coming on here and seeing the same rehash of every negative associated with the past 20 years of the Skins. I currently am not using the ignore feature because I like hearing everyone's opinions but its getting to that point with your incessant negativity that I either put you on it or I don't read the warpath as often. kinda an easy choice from that standpoint.

Here's the thing CRed. I understand its a redskins forum, and I'm a redskins fan. But please, quit the whole "If your not gonna be all bright and happy with rainbows coming out of your ears and bright sunshiny rays flowing out your ass about the Redskins, please just quit posting."

You don't like what other people post, don't read it. I'm sure even the goat wants the skins to be good, its just that with being so bad for so long, some of us get frustrated at times, especially three years in, and the same lame ass excuses are made about two to three more years, you just wait. Anyways, out of respect for Sundays being a football day, I will withdraw from this topic, at least for the rest of today! Good luck skins!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Here's the thing CRed. I understand its a redskins forum, and I'm a redskins fan. But please, quit the whole "If your not gonna be all bright and happy with rainbows coming out of your ears and bright sunshiny rays flowing out your ass about the Redskins, please just quit posting."

You don't like what other people post, don't read it. I'm sure even the goat wants the skins to be good, its just that with being so bad for so long, some of us get frustrated at times, especially three years in, and the same lame ass excuses are made about two to three more years, you just wait. Anyways, out of respect for Sundays being a football day, I will withdraw from this topic, at least for the rest of today! Good luck skins!

The eff is that supposed to mean? I want us to be fantastic, and I genuinely think we have the roster to do it. Thus, my frustration w/ the coaching staff.

[Evilgrin]

The D was overrated, but Orakpo is a top 15 pass rusher also. Try to look at it from a few different perspectives. Imagine us having just played the falcons with no Abraham.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

The D was overrated, but Orakpo is a top 15 pass rusher also. Try to look at it from a few different perspectives. Imagine us having just played the falcons with no Abraham.

True. Rob jacksin been a non factor ever since his int td.

[SmootSmack]

What's with this Jeff Fisher love affair?

[los panda]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's with this Jeff Fisher love affair?

gotta be the push broom

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's with this Jeff Fisher love affair?

His badass facial hair...you know you like it.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Stephen Bowen and Lorenzo Alexander combined for a sack yesterday. I think we all know what this defense is now. They are not going to be a top 10 defense this year but as long as they keep opposing offenses out of the end zone then that's all that matters. Excellent selection by Haslett in getting Alexander and Keenen Robinson in the mix.