Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts

[skinsfan69]

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;950937]one question, how did he get the extra picks. one answer, he had a qb who he felt comfortable keeping. so regardless of every other point, fisher didn't spin his wheels trying to get a qb. instead he was comfortable enough that he could trade away a prime pick for future gains. the skins were not in that position...[/QUOTE]

Not trying to be Debbie Downer here but I'm not a fan of EVER trading away draft picks and you do not see any of the top teams do it. I never thought I'd see the day where Alex Smith is leading one of the leagues best teams. Seems like the SF coaches have not only coached up Alex Smith, but their top ranked defense.

[SmootSmack]

In fairness, we kind of chose to put ourselves in that QB situation. That said the Rams don't have considerably more picks than we do.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

What was Shanny's record starting off in Washington? I remember a few years ago when the Buc's went 10-6 and everyone praised the coaching, and wanted that coach in Washington..

Oh, about that.....

I knew someone would bring up tampa. I really did. I actually looked into my crystal ball and knew it would be you. Lol. I thought about tampa while i was writing that and ill tell you what. Ill take a 10 -6 season about now and feel damn good. Man i know the idea is to build a winning team in the mode of pats/steelers/packers. Win every year and sprinkle in a championship or two but at this point ill take a 10-6 season. Baby steps.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

In fairness, we kind of chose to put ourselves in that QB situation. That said the Rams don't have considerably more picks than we do.

Thank you.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

In fairness, we kind of chose to put ourselves in that QB situation. That said the Rams don't have considerably more picks than we do.

well my point was mainly Fisher walked in to a 1st overall qb not named JaMarcus. Shanahan walked into JC. from that point yes the tail chasing for a qb is on Shanahan. I would take 2 first rounds to 0 for the next 2 years as a better drafting position.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Must. Resist. Entering. The. Vortex.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Must. Resist. Entering. The. Vortex.

Definitely not worth it.

[GusFrerotte]

Another hype job of a season that is going bust before week 8. We have some nice RBs, a pretty decent line, a nice batch of LBs, and of course RG3, but we still don't have a secondary, or to be honest a good WR corp. I like Santana doing damage late, but take away Garcon's initial quarter as a Redskin and he must be termed a possible bust at this point. The youngsters are serviceable, but nothing much else thus far either. I guess it isn't fair to call the season a bust til after week 8, but it already has the feel that we are muddling through.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Another hype job of a season that is going bust before week 8. We have some nice RBs, a pretty decent line, a nice batch of LBs, and of course RG3, but we still don't have a secondary, or to be honest a good WR corp. I like Santana doing damage late, but take away Garcon's initial quarter as a Redskin and he must be termed a possible bust at this point. The youngsters are serviceable, but nothing much else thus far either. I guess it isn't fair to call the season a bust til after week 8, but it already has the feel that we are muddling through.

OK, I'm going to play for this comment only. He's been fairly healthy his whole career, had a career high with garbage QBs last year and dropped a few last game after being hurt. Bust already? If RG3 was hurt after having a good first quarter week one and then did just OK last game would you say bust then too?

Seems mighty hasty to me.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

OK, I'm going to play for this comment only. He's been fairly healthy his whole career, had a career high with garbage QBs last year and dropped a few last game after being hurt. Bust already? If RG3 was hurt after having a good first quarter week one and then did just OK last game would you say bust then too?

Seems mighty hasty to me.

....just one more....

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

OK, I'm going to play for this comment only. He's been fairly healthy his whole career, had a career high with garbage QBs last year and dropped a few last game after being hurt. Bust already? If RG3 was hurt after having a good first quarter week one and then did just OK last game would you say bust then too?

Seems mighty hasty to me.

Might be, but don't count on it with the luck this team has been having the past two decades. Think about it. The season is five games old and this guy has been 100% only for one quarter. He was OK to play Sunday, but obviously not up to par. We will know how the season will go by game 8. One thing I hate about the NFL is it is mostly hype city to the max. The fans get all hooked into it and excited, then boom!!!! Reality crashes it all down to earth. Happens all the time, and us fans always seemed to get hooked to some degree as well. The poor showing our wideouts had Sunday minus Santana's 77 yard TD should be cause for concern. I know RG wasn't in there, but damn, are we destined to lose automatically whenever he can't play? I was hoping that along with Moss and Garcon, Hankerson and Robinson would have given us something akin to what the Saints had in a WR corp when Meachem was still around. Looks like we might have to wait another season for the youngsters to fully develop. I know Cousins isn't RG, but he is a good QB.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Might be, but don't count on it with the luck this team has been having the past two decades. Think about it. The season is five games old and this guy has been 100% only for one quarter. He was OK to play Sunday, but obviously not up to par. We will know how the season will go by game 8. One thing I hate about the NFL is it is mostly hype city to the max. The fans get all hooked into it and excited, then boom!!!! Reality crashes it all down to earth. Happens all the time, and us fans always seemed to get hooked to some degree as well. The poor showing our wideouts had Sunday minus Santana's 77 yard TD should be cause for concern. I know RG wasn't in there, but damn, are we destined to lose automatically whenever he can't play? I was hoping that along with Moss and Garcon, Hankerson and Robinson would have given us something akin to what the Saints had in a WR corp when Meachem was still around. Looks like we might have to wait another season for the youngsters to fully develop. I know Cousins isn't RG, but he is a good QB.

Good point. We faced a good team- a team that was and is undefeated up to this point. Hankerson, Robinson, and of course Garcon have their moments. Perhaps the offense is ordinary without RG3 because he is no ordinary quarterback. He gives a lot to defend so if there's a time he's not in the game, the defense becomes relieved a bit. Not saying Kirk Cousins can't play as good as Joe Montana or perhaps Richard Todd, but Cousins doesn't bring the same danger to defenses that Griffin III does. Sometimes I saw Cousins hang in the pocket longer than he should when he should have tucked the ball away and taken off. As far as the wideouts not getting any separation, perhaps Cousins didn't see anything open some of the time.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

OK, I'm going to play for this comment only. He's been fairly healthy his whole career, had a career high with garbage QBs last year and dropped a few last game after being hurt. Bust already? If RG3 was hurt after having a good first quarter week one and then did just OK last game would you say bust then too?

Seems mighty hasty to me.

Gotta measure "bust" as a matter of expectations. If Garcon was expected to be a #1 WR anytime up to this point in his career, he's a bust. No other way to see it. He had arguably the greatest QB in the history of football tossing to him for what, three or four years, and never broke a thousand yards. He didn't break that barrier last year either, even with Wayne gimpy for what, most the season? Shanny paid way, way over Garcon's career performance thus far, hoping to catch him on the upswing. Could still happen, but frankly it would mean Garcon becomes a totally different kind of player than he's been up to this moment.

Setting Garcon aside, I'm of the view talent isn't our issue. Defensively, we still are better suited for a 4-3 scheme. You make that switch with smart d coordinator and we're a top 10 defense, even with the current state of our secondary. Offensively, we've been great this year as long as RG3 keeps the pigskin about half our rushing downs. Take that factor out of the equation, as seen in the last two games, and the offense is closer to average than elite. My suspicion, though I hope I'm wrong, is that Kyle's play-calling becomes ever more predictable as has always been the case with him. And that likely translates into offensive anemia.

Same with the offense as with the defense, we have the talent to be consistently good. Obviously, the line cannot be great with the likes of Polumbus waddling around out there, and if we lose Trent the line falls to pieces. But we've got an elite TE, an average WR corp that if schemed properly will consistently move the chains, a solid ground attack and a QB with elite skills.

[MTK]

Dude. Vortex. Stay out.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

LOL, true. I only wanted one!