Skins/Giants post game thread

donofriose · 10-21-2012, 10:02 PM

Obviously our secondary sucks, but so does our pass rush. Both the Vikings and the Giants had way too much time. I thought Ryan Kerrigan would have a breakout year instead he is showing how much he needs Orakpo on the other side to be effective. The only time we got to Eli was when the Giants were throwing a screen and got a first time. Defense in general needs to play a lot better. Every phase.

GTripp0012 · 10-21-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Royster doesn't even get carries over young and hes a fb. He must not be any good or he just doesn't get the offense or something.

Or the redskins still don't always use personnel to the highest potential. The results have been adequate (3-4!), so why adjust?

Side note, i thought Morris had his best game today.

GTripp0012 · 10-21-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No my man Most of that improvement is from Mr Robert Griffin the 3rd

We improved from beating the giants by double digits to losing by four.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 10-21-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We improved from beating the giants by double digits to losing by four.

Really... Comparing this years team to last years... Go back and watch game two in giants stadium last year. If their WRs would have caught the ball we would have been pummeled.

The Goat · 10-21-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Really... Comparing this years team to last years... Go back and watch game two in giants stadium last year. If their WRs would have caught the ball we would have been pummeled.

...but Eli was bad today until there were about 7 minutes to go in the game.
Either way, the Giants' offense hasn't clicked the last three times we've played em. Have no idea why...

JoeRedskin · 10-21-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

...but Eli was bad today until there were about 7 minutes to go in the game.
Either way, the Giants' offense hasn't clicked the last three times we've played em. Have no idea why...

Couldn't be anything we were doing. <sarcasm font off>

The Goat · 10-21-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Couldn't be anything we were doing. <sarcasm font off>

You can't react to sarcasm with sarcasm man...that's just awkward lol.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 10-21-2012, 10:35 PM

Hey guys --- good night. Going to hang with the wife for a bit before bed. Honestly I think we are just saying the same things over and over in different ways. Nice talking to everyone see you around the board this week.

GTripp0012 · 10-21-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by imaskin4life

The defense sucks

But how about the play of your QB at the end of these games! It seems like every game so far he has either put us in position to win/tie/end the game with these late drives. If our record were better you could argue league MVP.

He's in the discussion.

punch it in · 10-21-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Ok fine grammar aside, I don't agree with him. The FO isn't the problem and neither is the offense. We all know where the problems lie. The defensive back field.

Our O is the leading rushing team, and what third in scoring and yardage overall. We are good on O besides a RT.

Focus this team on finding a new d backfield and another pass rusher and we are good. Ready to contend for the NFC good.

Couldnt agree more. One day well have rak, carriker, garcon, and i really liked bernstine ( saying that rite) all back. In the mean time though I stand by the statement i have made over and over today. We will win the division this year.

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rbanerjee23 · 10-21-2012, 10:05 PM

Nobody is calling for Shanahan's or Allen's heads -- It should be noted however that this is year three and we are fielding, by all statistical approximations, the worst secondary in the league. What is scary is that it is not as though we are playing an elite quarterback every week.

Injuries have played their part no doubt and the lack of cap space certainly hurts but Shanahan is getting paid $7 million a year and Allen is getting paid something similar I am sure to sort out these problems and in that regard they have failed. Can anyone say, that with the game on the line, you trust the defense to make a stop? I know I don't.

We have a rookie quarterback starting, a rookie running back, no real #1 receiver and they have looked fantastic so kudos to the front office. But, this is year 3!! How is the defense in this bad of shape? And all arguments about turnovers, defensive scoring etc. are specious -- look up the numbers, we are #29 in total defense, #26 in points per game, and dead last in passing yards per game. Without RG3's brilliance, we would be lucky to have 1 win.

donofriose · 10-21-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Nobody is calling for Shanahan's or Allen's heads -- It should be noted however that this is year three and we are fielding, by all statistical approximations, the worst secondary in the league. What is scary is that it is not as though we are playing an elite quarterback every week.

Injuries have played their part no doubt and the lack of cap space certainly hurts but Shanahan is getting paid $7 million a year and Allen is getting paid something similar I am sure to sort out these problems and in that regard they have failed. Can anyone say, that with the game on the line, you trust the defense to make a stop? I know I don't.

We have a rookie quarterback starting, a rookie running back, no real #1 receiver and they have looked fantastic so kudos to the front office. But, this is year 3!! How is the defense in this bad of shape? And all arguments about turnovers, defensive scoring etc. are specious -- look up the numbers, we are #29 in total defense, #26 in points per game, and dead last in passing yards per game. Without RG3's brilliance, we would be lucky to have 1 win.

Without them we would not have RG3 or any kind of future. I agree that they do need to show improvement for the remainder of this year and next season but too soon to be calling for heads. If we do not make the playoffs by year 4 changed so need to be made.

rbanerjee23 · 10-21-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by donofriose

Without them we would not have RG3 or any kind of future. I agree that they do need to show improvement for the remainder of this year and next season but too soon to be calling for heads. If we do not make the playoffs by year 4 changed so need to be made.

My whole argument was that you shouldn't be calling for heads but it is kind of disgraceful and reflects very poorly on the front office on the state of the defense.

GTripp0012 · 10-21-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Really... Comparing this years team to last years... Go back and watch game two in giants stadium last year. If their WRs would have caught the ball we would have been pummeled.

Well, sure. That's true.

They had many of the same issues today.

skinsfaninok · 10-21-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We improved from beating the giants by double digits to losing by four.

O u mean against NY? Thought u meant in general as a whole

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10-21-2012, 10:35 PM	#8
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread Hey guys --- good night. Going to hang with the wife for a bit before bed. Honestly I think we are just saying the same things over and over in different ways. Nice talking to everyone see you around the board this week. __________________ Just win.

10-21-2012, 10:05 PM	#11
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread Nobody is calling for Shanahan's or Allen's heads -- It should be noted however that this is year three and we are fielding, by all statistical approximations, the worst secondary in the league. What is scary is that it is not as though we are playing an elite quarterback every week. Injuries have played their part no doubt and the lack of cap space certainly hurts but Shanahan is getting paid $7 million a year and Allen is getting paid something similar I am sure to sort out these problems and in that regard they have failed. Can anyone say, that with the game on the line, you trust the defense to make a stop? I know I don't. We have a rookie quarterback starting, a rookie running back, no real #1 receiver and they have looked fantastic so kudos to the front office. But, this is year 3!! How is the defense in this bad of shape? And all arguments about turnovers, defensive scoring etc. are specious -- look up the numbers, we are #29 in total defense, #26 in points per game, and dead last in passing yards per game. Without RG3's brilliance, we would be lucky to have 1 win. __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

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10-21-2012, 10:02 PM	#1
donofriose The Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,097	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread Obviously our secondary sucks, but so does our pass rush. Both the Vikings and the Giants had way too much time. I thought Ryan Kerrigan would have a breakout year instead he is showing how much he needs Orakpo on the other side to be effective. The only time we got to Eli was when the Giants were throwing a screen and got a first time. Defense in general needs to play a lot better. Every phase.

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