Skins/Giants post game thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Obviously our secondary sucks, but so does our pass rush. Both the Vikings and the Giants had way too much time. I thought Ryan Kerrigan would have a breakout year instead he is showing how much he needs Orakpo on the other side to be effective. The only time we got to Eli was when the Giants were throwing a screen and got a first time. Defense in general needs to play a lot better. Every phase.

Something not alot of people are honing in on. If quarterbacks have so much time eventually one wr is going to get open. This is the biggest argument i have about it being haz over the personnel. Either every player on our d is under performing or they arent being put in a position to succeed.


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[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Something not alot of people are honing in on. If quarterbacks have so much time eventually one wr is going to get open. This is the biggest argument i have about it being haz over the personnel. Either every player on our d is under performing or they arent being put in a position to succeed.


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Losing two of our best pass rushers in week two didn't help at all. We need more of them two. Hey at least now I hope the FO see the value in not teading a guy like Rak for some picks, unless said picks are used on more pass rushers which would seem rather redundant.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Losing two of our best pass rushers in week two didn't help at all. We need more of them two. Hey at least now I hope the FO see the value in not teading a guy like Rak for some picks, unless said picks are used on more pass rushers which would seem rather redundant.

You can build super bowl teams around two good to great pass rushers. Ever since Orakpo went down Kerrigan has not been relevant except for the interception, but he is not primarily there to cover anyway. If Orakpo comes back healthy we need him, still we obviously need depth on this team. Our Defense is lacking in depth and it is showing in our secondary, our d-line and our linebackers, or in every single phase.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

O u mean against NY? Thought u meant in general as a whole

I did. We're 3-4.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I did. We're 3-4.

Lol last year we won what 5 ? .are we way better? No but Griffin makes us Mo doubt better overall than last year. We'll win 7-8 games at least this year

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Without them we would not have RG3 or any kind of future. I agree that they do need to show improvement for the remainder of this year and next season but too soon to be calling for heads. If we do not make the playoffs by year 4 changed so need to be made.

Because we wouldnt have had such a high draft pick. Lol. Seriously though i think any FO in their rite mind with Rex Grossman as their qb would have tried to deal for that pick and RG-3. It wasnt exactly a Tom Brady- ish pick.


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[Chico23231]

I thought Kyle did a good job today except when he decided to run the option with RG3 and Niles Paul on 3rd down late in the game. WTF was that bullsh*t? Rather see a shovel pass or a WR screen.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I thought Kyle did a good job today except when he decided to run the option with RG3 and Niles Paul on 3rd down late in the game. WTF was that bullsh*t? Rather see a shovel pass or a WR screen.

That was just yuck.


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[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Lol last year we won what 5 ? .are we way better? No but Griffin makes us Mo doubt better overall than last year. We'll win 7-8 games at least this year

We definitely have a shot to win 7 or even 8 games, but we'd have to be sharper than we looked today to do that.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Losing two of our best pass rushers in week two didn't help at all. We need more of them two. Hey at least now I hope the FO see the value in not teading a guy like Rak for some picks, unless said picks are used on more pass rushers which would seem rather redundant.

Every team has injuries though. Look at the Giants last year. Half their defense was hurt and they plugged other guys in and they didnt miss a beat. At some point you have to look at Haslett and his track record and stop making excuses.


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[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by donofriose

You can build super bowl teams around two good to great pass rushers. Ever since Orakpo went down Kerrigan has not been relevant except for the interception, but he is not primarily there to cover anyway. If Orakpo comes back healthy we need him, still we obviously need depth on this team. Our Defense is lacking in depth and it is showing in our secondary, our d-line and our linebackers, or in every single phase.

True, but i wouldn't call Orakpo and Kerrigan great pass rushers.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

True, but i wouldn't call Orakpo and Kerrigan great pass rushers.

Eh I said good to great, they are in between the two.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Couldn't be anything we were doing. <sarcasm font off>

It is strange though how we tend to make mediocre players and offenses look like hall of famers and than seem to (for the most part) contain the giants over the last three meetings.


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[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Couldn't be anything we were doing. <sarcasm font off>

I think we did and do a good job of capitalizing on Eli's back foot throwing tendency the last couple of years by making him throw a lot of those lateral passes he can't seem to hit instead of the vertical ones he seems to hit every time. In theory, the game winning throw shouldn't have even been a completeable ball. Cruz just won that too decisively.

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Hey guys --- good night. Going to hang with the wife for a bit before bed. Honestly I think we are just saying the same things over and over in different ways. Nice talking to everyone see you around the board this week.

Yeah man. You too.


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