Skins/Giants post game thread

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Good:
Rob Jackson
Griff
Morris
Bad:
Polumbus
The three run plays by kyle in the fourth
HASLETT's piss poor inability to keep the defense behind cruz.
**** u jim ****ing haslett - you have sucked ur entire career and i dont know how the hell u have a job in the nfl still.


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Huh? Haslett had the double team called up. Its not his fault Williams moves as fas then maybe a High School athlete.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Huh? Haslett had the double team called up. Its not his fault Williams moves as fas then maybe a High School athlete.

they were playing the short pass -that is evident. you have to at all costs have a safety deep there - I understand williams sucks but you cant fire him - someone has to be held accountable for that - Haslett.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

they were playing the short pass -that is evident. you have to at all costs have a safety deep there - I understand williams sucks but you cant fire him - someone has to be held accountable for that - Haslett.

Just like you fire Kyle when we had Rex throwing pics last year? Just stop it.

He wasnt playing the short pass. Williams played the short pass. When you call a double coverage its up to the DBs to situate the situation on the field. Not Haslett.. He calls the defense, he doesnt tell Williams how to make the play.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Just like you fire Kyle when we had Rex throwing pics last year? Just stop it.

He wasnt playing the short pass. Williams played the short pass. When you call a double coverage its up to the DBs to situate the situation on the field. Not Haslett.. He calls the defense, he doesnt tell Williams how to make the play.

I never said fire KS last year so not sure where you are going with that. If you think Haslett will be the DC on this team next year than I want some of what you are smoking. lol - why wait is all im saying.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I never said fire KS last year so not sure where you are going with that. If you think Haslett will be the DC on this team next year than I want some of what you are smoking. lol - why wait is all im saying.

Huh? Are you in the Redskins front office or own a time machine? Maybe they dont plan on firing Haslett and plan on working on the secondary in the offseason like they did with the QB position this year?

No ofcourse not.. Thats to much like building a team. Lets just fire Haslett and bring in a new scheme again.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Just like you fire Kyle when we had Rex throwing pics last year? Just stop it.

He wasnt playing the short pass. Williams played the short pass. When you call a double coverage its up to the DBs to situate the situation on the field. Not Haslett.. He calls the defense, he doesnt tell Williams how to make the play.

No, you fire Kyle two years ago, one year ago, and today because he can't put a whole game-plan together and there are multiple examples in every game where the defense reads the play before the ball is snapped. The most important three today were all option reads btw, but even further down the line they're still important "misses." While I don't like Mike as a personnel guy, and I think he needs to rediscover his offensive genius, I'll take Mike running the offense completely over Kyle's game-day performances.

The calls for Hazlett's head are justified too IMO. Tell you what, Mike letting his kid, and the NFL, know Kyle's holding this offense back, and then booting the defensive coordinator because he's holding the defense back, could look desperate and I'm sure ESPN would try to spin it that way, but it would really show Mike is serious about finding a winning combo. We have the talent, get the "brains" on game-day sorted out and let's win a few against the good teams!!

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by The Goat

No, you fire Kyle two years ago, one year ago, and today because he can't put a whole game-plan together and there are multiple examples in every game where the defense reads the play before the ball is snapped. The most important three today were all option reads btw, but even further down the line they're still important "misses." While I don't like Mike as a personnel guy, and I think he needs to rediscover his offensive genius, I'll take Mike running the offense completely over Kyle's game-day performances.

The calls for Hazlett's head are justified too IMO. Tell you what, Mike letting his kid, and the NFL, know Kyle's holding this offense back, and then booting the defensive coordinator because he's holding the defense back, could look desperate and I'm sure ESPN would try to spin it that way, but it would really show Mike is serious about finding a winning combo. We have the talent, get the "brains" on game-day sorted out and let's win a few against the good teams!!

I say we just fire everyone. Make RG3 the Head Coach, and leader of the Redskins Organization. He doesn't need plays. Just take the shotgun snap from 8 yards and play street ball.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by The Goat

No, you fire Kyle two years ago, one year ago, and today because he can't put a whole game-plan together and there are multiple examples in every game where the defense reads the play before the ball is snapped. The most important three today were all option reads btw, but even further down the line they're still important "misses." While I don't like Mike as a personnel guy, and I think he needs to rediscover his offensive genius, I'll take Mike running the offense completely over Kyle's game-day performances.

The calls for Hazlett's head are justified too IMO. Tell you what, Mike letting his kid, and the NFL, know Kyle's holding this offense back, and then booting the defensive coordinator because he's holding the defense back, could look desperate and I'm sure ESPN would try to spin it that way, but it would really show Mike is serious about finding a winning combo. We have the talent, get the "brains" on game-day sorted out and let's win a few against the good teams!!

Let's not get into an iggles situation here -- firing Shanahan for the defense's failings is as bad as Reid firing Castillo for the offense's failings.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

No, you fire Kyle two years ago, one year ago, and today because he can't put a whole game-plan together and there are multiple examples in every game where the defense reads the play before the ball is snapped. The most important three today were all option reads btw, but even further down the line they're still important "misses." While I don't like Mike as a personnel guy, and I think he needs to rediscover his offensive genius, I'll take Mike running the offense completely over Kyle's game-day performances.

The calls for Hazlett's head are justified too IMO. Tell you what, Mike letting his kid, and the NFL, know Kyle's holding this offense back, and then booting the defensive coordinator because he's holding the defense back, could look desperate and I'm sure ESPN would try to spin it that way, but it would really show Mike is serious about finding a winning combo. We have the talent, get the "brains" on game-day sorted out and let's win a few against the good teams!!

There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with the play calling today minus one series. You just have this illogical hate towards the Shanahan's and it shows.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with the play calling today minus one series. You just have this illogical hate towards the Shanahan's and it shows.

I think people are equating RG3's/Morris' mistakes/turnovers to problems with the playcall? My only beef with the play calling is the inability of getting in the endzone during the first drive and that stupid option to Paul.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think people are equating RG3's/Morris' mistakes/turnovers to problems with the playcall? My only beef with the play calling is the inability of getting in the endzone during the first drive and that stupid option to Paul.

Yeah, I had a huge issue with that stupid ass option play with Paul. That play hasn't worked before and didn't work today, and likely will not work ever in the future. I've seen the Panthers try the same shit with Cam only to get it stuffed as well.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with the play calling today minus one series. You just have this illogical hate towards the Shanahan's and it shows.

No, I think Mike needs to takeover play-calling because errors there are costing us significantly. If/when you watch the replay you'll count multiple plays spread throughout the game in which the defense read it perfectly before the ball was snapped. The most obvious ones we're the option to Paul, the option where RG3 lost the ball, and the option that was nearly broken up. The other instances don't have the same trending pattern. Here and there on an obvious blitz from the defense and Kyle hasn't given RG3 a quick slant option to burn the blitz.

And then you get into how poorly we spread the field through the air. I swear, our run game is creating bigger space/holes than the air attack.

Where I was wrong, up to the Falcons game, was thinking we have a pedestrian WR corp. We have a pretty good corp IMO. Moss is stellar this season. Hankerson shows some impressive skill improvement every game. He's learning to create space a little like Moss, and his bigger frame helps him out. Garcon and Morgan, while neither guy is consistent enough, can be swapped out for whoever is on their game. Add Fred Davis and you have a pretty awesome group of pass-catchers. We won't be quite at lethal with Cooley and Paulsen splitting time, but it is most definitely a group that should be able to consistently move the ball AND score.

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

they were playing the short pass -that is evident. you have to at all costs have a safety deep there - I understand williams sucks but you cant fire him - someone has to be held accountable for that - Haslett.

Williams stared right at the guy running down the field passed him and decided to go only after Cruz had him in his rearview. Maideu needs to make a play. He looked like a fish out of water on that one.

I may sound like a know it all but its honestly not that hard. You know you're up with a minute and some change to go. You watch the out and corner since Wilson had inside leverage, but you play the deep ball at all costs. You play the deep ball and react to the short throw. You DONT just say, "welp, Haslett called short coverage so even though i see the leagues best deep threat running straight towards the end zone - I'm just gonna stay here in my zone."

btw, i seriously doubt Haslett called "all short coverage" or whatever we want to call it. He's bad, but not mentally challenged.

[Bucket]

Its not Haslett. Players play the game. Wilson wws getting beat, so you put the double team on Cruz and they BOTH got beat...

Haslett called a good game... He doesnt play.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Its not Haslett. Players play the game. Wilson wws getting beat, so you put the double team on Cruz and they BOTH got beat...

Haslett called a good game... He doesnt play.

agree 100%. Not his fault at all.