Skins/Giants post game thread

[Bucket]

Its not Haslett. Players play the game. Wilson wws getting beat, so you put the double team on Cruz and they BOTH got beat...

Haslett called a good game... He doesnt play.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Its not Haslett. Players play the game. Wilson wws getting beat, so you put the double team on Cruz and they BOTH got beat...

Haslett called a good game... He doesnt play.

agree 100%. Not his fault at all.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Its not Haslett. Players play the game. Wilson wws getting beat, so you put the double team on Cruz and they BOTH got beat...

Haslett called a good game... He doesnt play.

Our offense and the long drives resulting in points basically kept eli off the field for the entire first half. Not sure I would say Haslett called a good game. Eli misfired on a lot of passes or it would never have been close. It is hasletts job to make sure someone is deep on that last drive. He failed.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Our offense and the long drives resulting in points basically kept eli off the field for the entire first half. Not sure I would say Haslett called a good game. Eli misfired on a lot of passes or it would never have been close. It is hasletts job to make sure someone is deep on that last drive. He failed.

No use trying to convince you. You have blinders on.. You just dont understand schemes and how its played or you are just being critical of anything. Haslett calls the defense .. Williams and Wilson were orchestrated to double team Cruz. Now take in to effect tbat the Giants still have 3photoshop timeoits and 1:50+ on the clock. They only need a FG. So throwing 2 safeties 30 yards back is not a good call.

Double man OVER was an excellent call for the situation. Ive watched it 3 times now, and Williams simply didnt REACT fast enough. He didnt react to the short or the deep. He just didnt do anything..

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

No use trying to convince you. You have blinders on.. You just dont understand schemes and how its played or you are just being critical of anything. Haslett calls the defense .. Williams and Wilson were orchestrated to double team Cruz. Now take in to effect tbat the Giants still have 3photoshop timeoits and 1:50+ on the clock. They only need a FG. So throwing 2 safeties 30 yards back is not a good call.

Double man OVER was an excellent call for the situation. Ive watched it 3 times now, and Williams simply didnt REACT fast enough. He didnt react to the short or the deep. He just didnt do anything..

That is your philosophy - mine is that you consider the situation. The situation is that Eli Manning has a minute and a half to go down the field (which he does almost on a weekly basis). We KNOW our secondary sucks. So to put Wilson and Williams in a postion to do anything other than prevent seven is asking them to do to much. With our D and Eli Manning at home on a potential game winning drive - you play to hold them to three - you play it safe there. Yes - you are rite - if you are trying to convince me that we have the rite guy in charge of our Defense I will NEVER EVER agree with you

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

That is your philosophy - mine is that you consider the situation. The situation is that Eli Manning has a minute and a half to go down the field (which he does almost on a weekly basis). We KNOW our secondary sucks. So to put Wilson and Williams in a postion to do anything other than prevent seven is asking them to do to much. With our D and Eli Manning at home on a potential game winning drive - you play to hold them to three - you play it safe there. Yes - you are rite - if you are trying to convince me that we have the rite guy in charge of our Defense I will NEVER EVER agree with you

Like I said,you have Blinders on.. I appreciate you agreeing with me.

Although, asking Williams and Josh Wilson to apply double team on one guy and prevent anything less then a TD is TO MUCH?

They are professional athletes.. You're paying them to cover, and they failed at that. What else can you do in that situation? Prevent D with 3 safeties over top? Then what? Hope for a FG, and win the toss, and the HOPE that Eli doesn't march down the field and score a TD? Win the game on luck?

You have to put faith in the players on the field. You can't call situational play calls because you are afraid of someone you have on the field. That's just lunacy.

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

That is your philosophy - mine is that you consider the situation. The situation is that Eli Manning has a minute and a half to go down the field (which he does almost on a weekly basis). We KNOW our secondary sucks. So to put Wilson and Williams in a postion to do anything other than prevent seven is asking them to do to much. With our D and Eli Manning at home on a potential game winning drive - you play to hold them to three - you play it safe there. Yes - you are rite - if you are trying to convince me that we have the rite guy in charge of our Defense I will NEVER EVER agree with you

If we showed 2 deep every play that drive like you suggest we would've got dink and dunked all the way down the field. They only needed a field goal, you don't play it safe - you play to win the game. Every time we've "played it safe" this year we've gotten marched on all the way down the field. Eli and co. are too good and we are not good enough to play it safe.

Haslett called the right D if he call 2 deep man under like we think he did, had a guy that was supposed to be deep over Cruz, and he didn't make the play. This is the NFL - we can't treat guys like juveniles and have them stand on the goal line preventing TD's. We have to expect Madieu to make that play, he didn't, and thats why he will be replaced by the start of next year.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

If we showed 2 deep every play that drive like you suggest we would've got dink and dunked all the way down the field. They only needed a field goal, you don't play it safe - you play to win the game. Every time we've "played it safe" this year we've gotten marched on all the way down the field. Eli and co. are too good and we are not good enough to play it safe.

Haslett called the right D if he call 2 deep man under like we think he did, had a guy that was supposed to be deep over Cruz, and he didn't make the play. This is the NFL - we can't treat guys like juveniles and have them stand on the goal line preventing TD's. We have to expect Madieu to make that play, he didn't, and thats why he will be replaced by the start of next year.

I disagree. I think with Eli Manning and our secondary - and the fact that we are on the road - that you play it safe and hope to hell to hold them to a FG -

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I disagree. I think with Eli Manning and our secondary - and the fact that we are on the road - that you play it safe and hope to hell to hold them to a FG -

we'd be 0-7 if all we did was hope to win games.