Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

UUmm...no

How do you know? Ive heard inside sources say he has

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

How do you know? Ive heard inside sources say he has

I assume you are being funny.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I assume you are being funny.

no I wasnt,are you? I believe it was smootsmack who said he's heard that,he can correct me if he didnt and I apologize in advance

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

How do you know? Ive heard inside sources say he has

Iv'e heard inside sources that say he hasn't.

See what I did there?

[InsaneBoost]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

UUmm...no

DONT YOU QUESTION ME!!!!! Seriously though, to an extent I feel he has. I mean Lorenzo wasn't too happy about his comments, and according to reports he isn't the only one pissed about it. Look at the penalties we're racking up? The outburst by players? I don't know. Just doesn't seem like a smart coached team at the moment IMO.

Wheels are coming off.

[That Guy]

um, belichick started in cleveland, not the with patriots, so he didn't come close to winning a SB in his 2nd year.

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Iv'e heard inside sources that say he hasn't.

See what I did there?

Made a sarcastic comment with no real substance and an overused tag line at the end?

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Made a sarcastic comment with no real substance and an overused tag line at the end?

You nailed it

[Paintrain]

From frequent Shanahan critic Jason Reid, Mike Shanahan deserves a chance to build upon RGIII foundation - The Washington Post

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

From frequent Shanahan critic Jason Reid, Mike Shanahan deserves a chance to build upon RGIII foundation - The Washington Post

Fair points, I'd have to agree

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Agreed, we are still losing. Understand are missing our #1 WR, our #1 TE, our starting RT, best pass rusher, starting DE and both projected starting safeties. Do you think any of those would make a difference in our record or it is all on Shanahan the coach?

RT and both safeties still would have been big question marks. Garcon hurts for sure. Rak and Carriker too.

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Well, as long as people are willing to go back 7 and 8 years to blame his "teambuilding" on Gibbs 2.0, Vinny Cerratto, Albert hayneworth and the state of the 2008-2009 squad, I'd say its fair to revisit a topic that about 2-3 years old. If anything had a bigger impact as far as stunting the growth and progress of our team, it was trading away a second rounder for an over the hill vet in order to "win now". That and changing a defense that in NO way needed changing, even with the "horrible" roster that was the 2008-2009 squad.

Shanahan has let the game pass him by. There are better coaches out there than him. Hire one of em, RG3 would only have one year gone, the rest of his career ahead of him. His three years of team building have netted the following....

1. Younger Squad (a plus)
2. Worst defense in the league
3. A Defense with zero depth on pace to allow the most yards EVER in the history of the NFL
4. An injury prone 46 million dollar receiver who is out the rest of the season, and has only really earned his paycheck in one out of his 4 games
5. The most penalized team in the league
6. A very sketchy special teams, revolving door at kicker
7. His son at Offensive coordinator, so firing due to underperformance or lack of progress is out the window
8. Throwing players under the bus and admitting defeat
9. A much happier sunshiney attitude at Redskins park, on every day of the week other than Sundays.
10. A 33.8% Win percentage
11. Abysmal home w/l record
12. Absolutely atrocious time management during games. Just awful.
13. Highly questionable offseason acquisitions that do not compute or support the "team building" concept (too many to list)
14. A rookie quarterback and runningback who are carrying the load of the rest of the deficient squad, enabling a mirage of competitiveness. (which also cost the next two first round draft picks, so combine that with the 18 million penalty next year, where are the pieces supposed to come from? Doesn't sound like he planned well for the pieces. Sounds like now its more of a 5-6 year plan from NOW in order to realistically think he will build a contender.
15. No sniff of the playoff in three years, check that, no sniff of a 8 win season in three years.



No way he deserves another year.

Nice Mechanix.
Dont think Garcon was injury prone was he? Either way the rest of your observations totally outweigh that anyway.
Your point about RG-3 having only one year gone is my big concern. Everybody keeps saying lets not start over. however our D is a problem (and all of us agree on that) so we are going to have to start that over anyway when Haz is gone. That leaves the offense which obviously runs through RG-3. Shanny has been here three years, but Griff only one. So is it that big of a deal that he would have to "re-learn" a different offense in year two? He is a very smart kid - dont see that as a problem at all.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Nice Mechanix.
Dont think Garcon was injury prone was he? Either way the rest of your observations totally outweigh that anyway.
Your point about RG-3 having only one year gone is my big concern. Everybody keeps saying lets not start over. however our D is a problem (and all of us agree on that) so we are going to have to start that over anyway when Haz is gone. That leaves the offense which obviously runs through RG-3. Shanny has been here three years, but Griff only one. So is it that big of a deal that he would have to "re-learn" a different offense in year two? He is a very smart kid - dont see that as a problem at all.

he is now. that is all that counts to me. I don't care about him with indy, just like I didn't care about shanahans pre skins record or sucesses/failures. But now, after the team moving backwards other than RG3 and ALMo, his past is definitely becoming a pretty damning argument, as is his present.

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What are we talking about?

I believe anout shanny losing the team.