Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[12thMan]

Haven't waded through all the pages, but anyone making an argument that Shanny is anything but a mediocre head coach, doesn't have the stats to back it up. Furthermore, outside of a handful of draft picks the team's talent level is very underwhelming. Outside of Kerrigan, who's been so so this season, and maybe Rak when he returns next season, there's not one single player this team can't live without.

I don't know if Shanny should be fired, but I'm very reluctant to say he's the coach of the future.

[Hog1]

Well....he's available as the Jags cut him. Soooo apparently he did not impress them either.
Jaguars sign LB Greg Jones, cut WR Anthony Armstrong - Big Cat Country

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Just one more thing. Up until a week or so ago, LL (HTTR24/7) would have been laughing at you as well. He's been going at it with the other Shanny haters on the ES forums. The only reason he's saying this stuff now is due to some concerns being shared by players. So it's not like he's felt this way the whole time.

Guess we were rite about him sooner than. Its ok im not an "i told you so" guy. Cant speak for goat gtripp n mechanix on that one though.
Also i thought new poster httr 24-7 was not LL? Think they are two diff people. Could be wrong though. Thought i remember httr 24-7 referencing LL in one of his first posts the other nite. Or he was talking about himself in the third person which is fine too. Lol
Edit: not just concern by players, but brass too apparently.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Guess we were rite about him sooner than. Its ok im not an "i told you so" guy. Cant speak for goat gtripp n mechanix on that one though.
Also i thought new poster httr 24-7 was not LL? Think they are two diff people. Could be wrong though. Thought i remember httr 24-7 referencing LL in one of his first posts the other nite. Or he was talking about himself in the third person which is fine too. Lol

We don't know anything yet. His time here isn't done.

The tweets I post on occasions is from LL (LavarLeap56 from Extremeskins). His user ID on here is HTTR24-7

LL
@HTTR24_7

[los panda]

i've never so scared in my entire tuesday

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Just don't try to make the "presentation" argument. I'm an unapologetic a$$hole and once it was obvious didn't hold back about calling this regime the joke it is, but there were plenty of folks around here offering perfectly polite analysis of how bad Mike and Co have been. Had nothing to do with lack of reasoned arguments, approach, etc. Had everything to do with the mods seemingly endless efforts to makes excuses for the regime and diminish the skeptics and their posts. Some of the skeptics just left the conversation, I didn't.

Again, trying to put it on presentation is just dishonest.

The hatred for the shanny regime has definitely become more intense in my mind because of the "apologists". All of my posts about shanny started in a devils advocate way. The more i read opinions from both sides, the more i saw the "haters" side - which for me will always be first and foremost - wins and losses. All the other stuff - the presser the questionable personnel moves - haslett- discipline and the news from httr 24-7 have just cemented my initial skepticism into cold hard evidence for a change.

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

We don't know anything yet. His time here isn't done.

The tweets I post on occasions is from LL (LavarLeap56 from Extremeskins). His user ID on here is HTTR24-7

LL
@HTTR24_7

Yeah i know but remember he was talking about an incident at LL's house. Was that Laron Landry?
No we dont know anything yet - we might come out of the bye and be rite back in this. Or the writing is just plainly on the wall.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yeah i know but remember he was talking about an incident at LL's house. Was that Laron Landry?
No we dont know anything yet - we might come out of the bye and be rite back in this. Or the writing is just plainly on the wall.

Yes, he was referring to Laron Landry in that particular instance. Not himself.

[The Goat]

Where is GMScud btw? Haven't seen him most of the season.

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Yes, he was referring to Laron Landry in that particular instance. Not himself.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I didnt last very long on ES. Lol.
This whole LL thing started by Joe Redskins question "who is he"? Have been so confusing to me. Especially woth laron landry and lance lewis floating around. Lol think i got it now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Thanks for clearing that up.
I didnt last very long on ES. Lol.
This whole LL thing started by Joe Redskins question "who is he"? Have been so confusing to me. Especially woth laron landry and lance lewis floating around. Lol think i got it now.

Why is that?

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Why feed the troll?

Plus, Goat there are plenty of other teams to go cheer for. Go pick one that makes you happy. Football is escape from reality; if the skins and this web site are causing huge amounts of frustration for you go somewhere else.

I heard Houston is having a good year.

Houston Texans Fan Site & Message Boards - TexansTalk.com

I am sure more then a few people here would pitch in to get you a hat or jersey. Would you prefer a Watt one or Schaub?

You been to a home game recently. Not alot of cheering going on by anyone.

[12thMan]

Was just thinking, two of the last three Redskins head coaches came out of retirement to coach the Skins. The third guy is a journeyman QB coach on his third or fourth NFL team. (Chiefs)

[Hog1]

Smells like.....conspiracy, Comrade....

[53Fan]

I didn't particulary like Shanahan when we brought him here. It's pretty easy to check. But I was happy as hell Vinny was gone and we had a real GM. I was willing to give him a chance and changed my sig to reflect it. I've been excited at times. Especially about RG3. But now I think the flaws are coming out and the things I didn't like about Mike then are the same they are now. He's the same guy they got rid of in Denver. I think we are better off in some areas since he got here and would now like to see what a new offensive minded young HC and an experienced motivated (unlike Haslett) young DC could do. If we're sticking with the 3-4 than get an experienced 3-4 coach. I haven't researched guys but there is certainly some talent out there. I had no idea who Mike Smith was until he became coach of the Falcons. Mike's gonna be what he was...he lost his team his owner his defenses the last years sucked and we've all heard the micromanaging egomaniac stories. We have a GM and some young talent and probably the best QB or one of the best in the NFL. Thanks Mike for helping to clean house. Let's move on now.