Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Guys who could be starters on any team unless one of the top 5 guys at the position is there:

Alfred Morris
Darrell Young
Monty
Trent Williams
Fred Davis (IR)
Garcon (IR)
Steve Bowen
Perry Riley
Ryan Kerrigan
Barry Cofield

Guys who may develop into that type of player:
Paulson
Lichtenstieger
Cousins
Hankerson
Helu (IR)

Young Guys who may develop into everyday starters in a couple years:
Gettis
LeRibeus
Robinson

Then you have solid guys like Moss, Alexander, Golston and Morgan. Maybe not guarranteed starters on other teams but certainly solid NFL players who would be picked up in a heartbeat if we cut them tomorrow.

The team has talent and youth most of it assembled by the current regime. It still has holes (note the lack of any DB's listed - I thought about Crawford, Bernstine but really don't think they have shown enough to indicate that they will be more than new and not-so-improved Byron Westbrooks).

I personally think the depth has been increased from the team that Shanahan inherited. For the record, I think Shanny got an aging, talented team that had little or no depth.

But to say there is no talent other than RGIII is just wrong.

I think offensively we're talented.

I don't know if you could compile such a list on the defensive end of the ball. (Well minus Cofield, Kerrigan and Bowen, since you threw them on this list)

Speaking of which, you left off Orakpo who I think would fall into that first list.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think offensively we're talented.

I don't know if you could compile such a list on the defensive end of the ball. (Well minus Cofield, Kerrigan and Bowen, since you threw them on this list)

Speaking of which, you left off Orakpo who I think would fall into that first list.

Healthy, our defensive front seven (Carriker, Cofield, Bowen, Kerrigan, Orakpo, Fletcher, Riley) is rather talented. The problem is they aren't healthy, Jenkins hasn't regained his power and explosiveness from his knee injury, Fletcher is aging rapidly before our eyes and our secondary is doing nothing to help them. Teams aren't running on our defense. Partly because they don't have to but also because they can't. Get some upgrades on the back end and fix the schematic issues, we will see a much improved defense with the same front 7 players.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think offensively we're talented.

I don't know if you could compile such a list on the defensive end of the ball. (Well minus Cofield, Kerrigan and Bowen, since you threw them on this list)

Speaking of which, you left off Orakpo who I think would fall into that first list.

I agree and yeah, after RGIII, I think Rak and T.Williams are our two most talented players.

Let's see what the D list looks like after this offseason. I suspect changes are in the offing.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I agree and yeah, after RGIII, I think Rak and T.Williams are our two most talented players.

Let's see what the D list looks like after this offseason. I suspect changes are in the offing.

I think Kerrigan is also very talented. Hasn't been showing up recently but still very talented.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I think Kerrigan is also very talented. Hasn't been showing up recently but still very talented.

Well I do notice sometimes he's getting mugged when he's rushing off the edge.