2013 NFL Draft Prospects

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Coming from the guy who said Cam Newton was the "best" QB prospect he had ever seen after his rookie season, so i take that with a grain of salt. By the way I would hate it if that was how our draft went.

I don't know why you trashed 30gut's mock draft without bothering to offer your reasons. Every player he listed has great athletic ability, good to outstanding size, and has shown NFL potential. His picks also address the Skins' primary needs and he has placed his picks in appropriate rounds.

Some of these players have a few warts, but don't we all?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Coming from the guy who said Cam Newton was the "best" QB prospect he had ever seen after his rookie season, so i take that with a grain of salt. .

Dang dude, why you so salty?
BTW lets set facts straight:
I said Cam was the best QB prospect I have ever seen before his rookie season.

(I started feeling that way after the Iron Bowl game. I have never seen a QB carry his team to victory like that, in the SEC no less against a power house pro-style team. One of the best college games I've seen.)

And I stand by that, I mean do you remember Cam's rookie season? Lol, I don't see how pointing my opinions on Cam, an instance where I was clearly right, takes away from my opinions?

By the way I would hate it if that was how our draft went

Then I must be on the right track.

-Cheers!
HTTR

[MTK]

I wouldn't go Mathieu in the 2nd, but right around the 3rd or 4th is probably where you start to see the value.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I want him, whether it is 2nd or 3rd round.

I'm with u man, he's a difference maker in the secondary

[NYCskinfan82]

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

Looks good, good corner, good olinemen, and a possible steal at receiver. Not sure if the skins will take Barner seeing as how Shanahan does not really draft running backs that are under 200 pounds but you never know.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

I could get with that draft.
Barner *shrugs* he aight I guess there are other backs in that range I prefer

Don't like these 2 picks or prospects:
Kwame Geathers
Conner Vernon

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

I don't like that draft.


I Love it.

The only pick I would change is the Clemson safety. I would get ray ray instead or mcdougald from Kansas at that point. But Vernon is a great pick very good slot WR. Kwame geathers is an NFL sibling, and was a backup at Georgia to 1st rounder John Jenkins. Oh and he is HUGE. Johnathan banks is a great CB, played in the best conference in college football, against future high pick WRs and fared well. He's looked at as a 2nd rounder because he didn't run his forty fast enough. I don't care about that. The tape says he can play.
Duke Williams will be a redskin, it's just a matter of what round. He can hit, he can cover, and he can play multiple positions as a DB. Think of a young Ryan Clark.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Redskins #MockFive Draft Results - Hogs Haven

What do you think of this draft.

I think he did a very good job. I would be excited by the potential of this crop of rookies.

Bearing in mind that he drafted against other people who represented their teams of choice, this draft probably looks more like what the Skins could actually accomplish than the drafts that some of us have posted. And it looks to me like they might be able to accomplish a lot. I can hardly wait for the real draft.

[diehardskin2982]

if Mathieu was not suspended he would be a 1st round pick. His issues are all mental as far as I am concerned

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

if Mathieu was not suspended he would be a 1st round pick. His issues are all mental as far as I am concerned

Took the words right outta my mouth.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

if Mathieu was not suspended he would be a 1st round pick. His issues are all mental as far as I am concerned

Just like Vernon Gholston, Maurice Clarett, Jamarcus Russell, etc. Their issues were all mental, too. Where are they now?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Just like Vernon Gholston, Maurice Clarett, Jamarcus Russell, etc. Their issues were all mental, too. Where are they now?

JaMarcus Russell and Clarett both had physical issues as well. Gholston was just a bust.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

if Mathieu was not suspended he would be a 1st round pick. His issues are all mental as far as I am concerned

Todd McShay had him as a second round prospect without the mental issues.
I am pretty sure Mike Mayock graded had him as a third/fourth round prospect just based on film.
I think Kiper had him as a second round propsect, but now due to the mental issues he is at best a third round prospect.

I do not think a corner like him would have been taken in the first round, due to the fact that he is not tall enough or has the right skills to play on the outside, nor is he strong enough to play safety. So he really is limited to slot corner/free lance kind of player and those type of players don't go in the first round.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Todd McShay had him as a second round prospect without the mental issues.
I am pretty sure Mike Mayock graded had him as a third/fourth round prospect just based on film.
I think Kiper had him as a second round propsect, but now due to the mental issues he is at best a third round prospect.

I do not think a corner like him would have been taken in the first round, due to the fact that he is not tall enough or has the right skills to play on the outside, nor is he strong enough to play safety. So he really is limited to slot corner/free lance kind of player and those type of players don't go in the first round.

Mayock had him as a 4th round pick before he was suspended? Show me where that is, I just wanna see it.

Kareem Jackson was a first round pick. He is barely 5'10"
Kyle Wilson was a first round pick. He is barely 5'10"
Leodis McKelvin was a top 15 pick.

Point is size is not as big of an issue as some are making it. Mathieu is 5'8 3/4 and 186 pounds. Is he small? Sure? Could he get pushed around? Absolutely, but fact is the kid can flat out play and was a heisman finalist from the CB position. Either you can play or you can't and I think at the end of the day he will be a top 5 defensive player from this draft.