Official 2012 Election Day Thread

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by saden1

Disgraceful:



We don't want stuff, we want equality and we want opportunity for all not just the people who have parents they can borrow money from. We want to focus on healing this country from a decade of war. We want to show the olive branches before the daggers to the rest of the world. We want equal pay for equal work. We want to help veterans reach their full potential when they come back home. We want to regulate bad people and business doing bad things. We want to move this country along to reach its full potential instead of focusing on the good ol' days which were good for some but not for all. We want to find decent and good solutions for undocumented immigrants not prescribe self-deportation.


This formula of further insulting and degrading minorities isn't going to help white conservative America overcome its presidential electoral predicament.

As long as the GOP continues to proudly be the party of exclusion and serving primarily the interests of wealthy white males, they will continue to lose national elections. Until they strongly and publicly denounce and distance themselves from the far right fringe elements that poison their party with divisiveness and hatred, they will continue to lose national elections. There should be a strong condemnation for what happened last night on the campus of Ole Miss, (large group of students shouting racial epithets towards Pres. Obama and in general) but it will be ignored by the right.

What O'Reilly said is actually correct (except that the ones who voted for him want 'things and stuff'), even though his delivery wasn't the most welcoming. The days of the White establishment in the US are over. What he doesn't say is that shouldn't be considered a bad thing! The nation is evolving so embrace the evolution, learn to accept others and find common ground rather than find areas of difference.

We all want the same things. An opportunity to provide for our families, safe communities, quality schools and the freedom to practice whatever religion we choose. The rest is all BS for talking heads to discuss.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I watched a ton of fox news and happened to catch that, as well. It was hilarious. Daily Show is going to eat it up.

[hooskins]

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Same as when you lose a football game.<br />
The winners cheer and the losers dont say much.<br />
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The USA has changed a lot. Its not the same country I grew up in.<br />
There are now more poeple riding in the wagon and less pulling it.<br />
I feel kind of embarrased that its come to this.<br />

Hm I think that's the point the right is missing. The demographics and makeup of those riding and pulling the wagon have changed, until the GOP realizes that they will continue to fall behind.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Hm I think that's the point the right is missing. The demographics and makeup of those riding and pulling the wagon have changed, until the GOP realizes that they will continue to fall behind.

The demographics dont matter. Its not about race.
Libs dont mind full wagons, but thats how bleeding hearts think.

[Chico23231]

I floated this idea around over the weekend with a friend. If whoever won would incorporate the loser somehow in his administration as a way to bring the right and left together. In this case, if Obama brought in Mitt or Ryan to play a part in tackling major problems. Set aside politics and focus on improving the country.

I honestly dont think we had bad canidates this time around and even though there was tense moments in the debates, I dont think it was as close to disrepectful or dirty as past campaigns. I actually think Mitt and Obama could work together quite well if given the chance. It would set a nice example

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I floated this idea around over the weekend with a friend. If whoever won would incorporate the loser somehow in his administration as a way to bring the right and left together. In this case, if Obama brought in Mitt or Ryan to play a part in tackling major problems. Set aside politics and focus on improving the country.

I honestly dont think we had bad canidates this time around and even though there was tense moments in the debates, I dont think it was as close to disrepectful or dirty as past campaigns. I actually think Mitt and Obama could work together quite well if given the chance. It would set a nice example

Well he did say he would sit down with Romney in the near future and discuss ideas so that was a pretty good gesture. Personally I would hope to see the following.

- Don't raise top rates to full 39% instead compromise and settle around 36%. Or maybe increase income requirements to qualify for top bracket.

- Revisit the American Jobs Act and have House and Senate go back and forth to reach a version that works for both parties. Tax credits for new hires and pay raises are especially important.

- Corporate tax rate at 28% is not a bad deal.

- Cut wasteful spending. This article is a good start Federal workers tell us what should be cut from the budget - The Washington Post

House Republicans should use any good will generated in negotiations to limit the reach of organizations like the EPA. I would hope they would agree to cuts in military spending but GOP would rather raise taxes before cutting defense.

Either way its vital that the two parties work together. Hopefully getting a few tea party candidates out of the way will help.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Well he did say he would sit down with Romney in the near future and discuss ideas so that was a pretty good gesture. Personally I would hope to see the following.

- Don't raise top rates to full 39% instead compromise and settle around 36%. Or maybe increase income requirements to qualify for top bracket.

- Revisit the American Jobs Act and have House and Senate go back and forth to reach a version that works for both parties. Tax credits for new hires and pay raises are especially important.

- Corporate tax rate at 28% is not a bad deal.

- Cut wasteful spending. This article is a good start Federal workers tell us what should be cut from the budget - The Washington Post

House Republicans should use any good will generated in negotiations to limit the reach of organizations like the EPA. I would hope they would agree to cuts in military spending but GOP would rather raise taxes before cutting defense.

Either way its vital that the two parties work together. Hopefully getting a few tea party candidates out of the way will help.

Tea Party was a HUGE loser yesterday.

[mlmpetert]

Los Angeles voters decide porn actors must wear condoms | Fox News

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Los Angeles voters decide porn actors must wear condoms | Fox News

Porn will be moving out of LA. Without a doubt.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Los Angeles voters decide porn actors must wear condoms | Fox News

Why would that even be voted on by the general public. Is't that an OSHA regulation? So now OSHA will have to be in the room making sure they are following the safty rules?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Tea Party was a HUGE loser yesterday.

How many are there now compared to before. I know the Tea Party lost one or two seats but I was hoping for a couple more.

[Alvin Walton]

I wouldnt call it a defeat.
I'd call it change.
A change of setbacks.
A four year setback changed to an eight year setback.

[firstdown]

Or in good humor.

[saden1]

Speaking of humor, LOL @ this jackass:

[DynamiteRave]

To me, the Republican loss means 2 things:

1st - Republicans need to step away from the whole, "We're God's platform" mentality. Blue dog democrats in places like Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa would easily vote Republican if they weren't faced with religion thrown in their face every debate and having to deal with far-right social issues. If Republicans left social issues alone and tried their hardest to focus on fiscal issues, they'd get the right, moderates and independents. Statements like (and I'm paraphrasing), if a women gets pregnant due to a rape, it must've been God's will, is why people (or at least I can't) take Republicans seriously. When it comes to social issues, staying as close to the middle as possible, is key.

2nd: I don't know how long Republicans are going to continue ignoring minorities. Obama won 73% of Hispanics and 71% of Asians and 93% of African-Americans. Since I know someone will argue, African-Americans won't vote for a white guy if there's a black guy running, what about Hispanics and Asians? Obama got more Latinos this election than LAST election and in 2004 Bush practically had Hispanics all over his jock. (Granted there was a lower Hispanic turnout). Hell, Bush even got 10% of the black vote.

I could be totally wrong, but I feel like you can't ignore minorities, least you could do is humor them like you're after their vote.