Brandon Meriweather, You Big Tease (Injury News)

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 3MiamiDade21egend6

Unfortunately, those classifications are not defined within the scope of football, so the classification is nothing more than the diagnosis; making their analytical relevance "a wash." We have a bad history within the organization of players suffering non-career threatening injuries yet never finding the field on a consistent basis after the fact, as an example. And though I may not be a doctor, I am a graduate of my university's school of health and human performance; so I insist that you do not pass "the new guy's" rant as one of angered stuper.

Wait, so did your University's "Health and Human Performance" degree include any kind of research into the causes and prevention of sports related injuries? The study or reliance on that research? Practicals in how to treat and prevent sports related injuries? An understanding of what constitutes appropriate treatment/prevention?

In light of this, how can you assert that the opinions of medical professionals is irrelevant and that creating some analytical array for comparing the Skins injuries to those of other teams is impossible? Conversely, you make this assertion but then, in the same breath, say we should consider your opinion as informed b/c you went obtained a degree apparently based on the research and study of those general principals.

I am not a trainer but I played one on TV.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by 3MiamiDade21egend6

Unfortunately, those classifications are not defined within the scope of football, so the classification is nothing more than the diagnosis; making their analytical relevance "a wash." We have a bad history within the organization of players suffering non-career threatening injuries yet never finding the field on a consistent basis after the fact, as an example. And though I may not be a doctor, I am a graduate of my university's school of health and human performance; so I insist that you do not pass "the new guy's" rant as one of angered stuper.

Stuper?

Well, I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night...

[los panda]

it's like finding a $20 bill, buying a candy bar, and losing the change.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Hail to the SteelSkins

Anyone decent on the FA market at Safety?

Thoughts on Ray Ray Armstrong? (due to his situation he should fall pretty late in the draft next year, or am I just hoping he will be half as good as Sean T because of all the early rumors about him?)

Miami grad here. Huge Ray Ray fan - mentioned him a couple months ago in another thread. Could be a huge steal in the later rounds.

[#21Taylor4Ever]

This sorta thing makes me miss Ryan Clark, LaRon Landry, and Sean Taylor even more! There was a time when our safety core was the least of our worries. Then those dumb ass kids took Sean from this earth, and we let Clark and Landry walk away.

The answer is simple, sign Stanford Routt and move Hall to FS. We have missed a true ball hawk back there at FS, and let's be honest, Hall's only true talent is gambling and hawking the ball.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is some absolutely shitty ****ing news. God damnit.

Keep hearing how injuries happen to all teams. Well, how many of those teams are down 7 starters for the year? (and still being competitive) It's not like we've lost backups or lost a guy for a few weeks. We've lost guys for the season. You can't lose that many starters (especially quality ones) for that length of time and do well.

I count four starters. BW, davis, carriker and Rak? Helu i never considered a starter and he wouldnt be even if he was completely healthy. Brown may be a starter but nobody expected him to sniff the playing field anyway. We are definitely not that bad off. Our o- line has stayed healthy above all expectations. Paulsen has been a major step it up guy. Garcon being out for all those weeks sucked but he is back and hopefully ready to contribute as we try and make a run. If you showed me this list before the year Rak is the only guy i would have probably puked in my mouth about. Carriker sucks too but hell injuries happen. And Garcon but he is back. I dont think the injury bug has crapped all over us - not by any stretch.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I count four starters. BW, davis, carriker and Rak? Helu i never considered a starter and he wouldnt be even if he was completely healthy. Brown may be a starter but nobody expected him to sniff the playing field anyway. .

Brown was expect to be healthy and starting this off-season.

Rak,AC, Meriweather, Davis, Garcon (not really back...he's still hurt/injured), Brown, Helu.......and you might as well call Jackson even though it's not a injury, he's still gone for the year.


Again, how many teams have lost that many STARTERS for the year and still have done well? I know injuries aren't our only issue, but god damn it makes a huge difference.

[SFREDSKIN]

Neild

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Brown was expect to be healthy and starting this off-season.

Rak,AC, Meriweather, Davis, Garcon (not really back...he's still hurt/injured), Brown, Helu.......and you might as well call Jackson even though it's not a injury, he's still gone for the year.


Again, how many teams have lost that many STARTERS for the year and still have done well? I know injuries aren't our only issue, but god damn it makes a huge difference.

I think the 2010 Green Bay Packers. They lost nearly a dozen starters that season and still managed to win the Super Bowl.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I think the 2010 Green Bay Packers. They lost nearly a dozen starters that season and still managed to win the Super Bowl.

They got back a few of their players. They didn't lose them for the year. Matthews was one of them. Got hurt in the game with us, came back later in the season.

Originally Posted by punch it in

The 2011 giants had a boatload of injuries to start the season - many of which lingered - and at one point their entire starting secondary. So basically two years in a row teams won superbowls that were decimated with injuries. Im with Matty injuries are rampant throughout the league - dont feel like we are any worse off than lots of teams.

Yes, and you saw how they started the season. A couple of their guys came back in that last part of the season during their run.



You guys keep saying this, but you are presenting NO Evidence. SHOW me. Show me who they lost, for how long, and what position. If they aren't a starter, don't even bother mentioning it.

[NC_Skins]

**** it, I did the research myself.

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I think the 2010 Green Bay Packers. They lost nearly a dozen starters that season and still managed to win the Super Bowl.

Packers Add 15th Name to Injured Reserve List « Purple Pants, Green Jersey


15 on the IR list and most of these guys were NOT starters. Barnett, Finley, Grant and Burnett were the only real starters. Four guys as compared to our 8 (if you include jackson). Not even.

Originally Posted by punch it in

The 2011 giants had a boatload of injuries to start the season - many of which lingered - and at one point their entire starting secondary. So basically two years in a row teams won superbowls that were decimated with injuries. Im with Matty injuries are rampant throughout the league - dont feel like we are any worse off than lots of teams.

Here is the list of Giants players who have been injured during the 2011 season that were starters and that were out the whole year.

1. CB Terrell Thomas – Out for season/IR List

2. LB Jonathan Goff

Two god damn starters. TWO!!!. Yes, they had a ton of injuries, but to back ups and second string personnel, not to starters. They also had injuries to several of their starters but for a few games, NOT the whole season. Even when some key guys went out with minor injuries, that team stunk. As soon as they came back, they started winning again.


So both of your are misguided in your claims that these teams lost just as many starters as we did and still succeeded. They didn't.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

**** it, I did the research myself.




Packers Add 15th Name to Injured Reserve List « Purple Pants, Green Jersey


15 on the IR list and most of these guys were NOT starters. Barnett, Finley, Grant and Burnett were the only real starters. Four guys as compared to our 8 (if you include jackson). Not even.





Here is the list of Giants players who have been injured during the 2011 season that were starters and that were out the whole year.

1. CB Terrell Thomas – Out for season/IR List

2. LB Jonathan Goff

Two god damn starters. TWO!!!. Yes, they had a ton of injuries, but to back ups and second string personnel, not to starters. They also had injuries to several of their starters but for a few games, NOT the whole season. Even when some key guys went out with minor injuries, that team stunk. As soon as they came back, they started winning again.


So both of your are misguided in your claims that these teams lost just as many starters as we did and still succeeded. They didn't.

Wouldn't it look worse for a teams non starter to have all the injuries because they have less playing time and contact. It happens nothing differetn here with the skins. Hell most players have their own trainin/trainers durn the off season and come to the season in shape. Just another thing for people to find wrong with our team.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by los panda

not hagans!

fml!

[skinsguy]

Guys are going to get hurt. I'm just hoping the mandatory rule to wear the thigh and knee pads in 2013 will help reduce the injuries. I know players will say the pads do nothing but slow a player down, but it didn't seem to bother players from the 80's and 90's, so I don't see why it would make that big of a difference in performance. I mean, if the NBA players are wearing more pads than the NFL players, there's something weird with that.

[SouperMeister]

He was laying the wood for the little bit of play he had. Hopefully he can come back next year.