Where does RGIII rank?

[Schneed10]

1) Aaron Rodgers
2) Peyton Manning
3) Tom Brady
4) Drew Brees
5) Matt Ryan
6) Eli Manning
7) Ben Roethlisberger
8) Robert Griffin III
9) Tony Romo
10) Andrew Luck

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

1) Aaron Rodgers
2) Peyton Manning
3) Tom Brady
4) Drew Brees
5) Matt Ryan
6) Eli Manning
7) Ben Roethlisberger
8) Robert Griffin III
9) Tony Romo
10) Andrew Luck

You got Eli Manning ranked before Big Ben? Manning is NOT a consistent QB. His heroics in SBs 42 &46 overshadows his inconsistency a great deal. The guy only has a 82.6 career QB rating.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

You got Eli Manning ranked before Big Ben? Manning is NOT a consistent QB. His heroics in SBs 42 &46 overshadows his inconsistency a great deal. The guy only has a 82.6 career QB rating.

Who gives a F*&K about a QB ranking if they are clutch when it counts and Eli is clutch.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Who gives a F*&K about a QB ranking if they are clutch when it counts and Eli is clutch.

Eli Manning is clutch indeed, but he's also inconsistent. QB rating in today's pass happy NFL is a measuring stick for how efficient and how good a QB is. Completion percentage, TD to INT ratio, accuracy is an indication of how truly skillful a QB is in today's NFL. When I see Peyton Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlesburger, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, RG3, and others attain high QBR I view that as being them being a skillful quarterback.

The disposition of "who gives a F*%k" only proves my point.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Eli Manning is clutch indeed, but he's also inconsistent. QB rating in today's pass happy NFL is a measuring stick for how efficient and how good a QB is. Completion percentage, TD to INT ratio, accuracy is an indication of how truly skillful a QB is in today's NFL. When I see Peyton Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlesburger, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, RG3, and others attain high QBR I view that as being them being a skillful quarterback.

The disposition of "who gives a F*%k" only proves my point.

I think the two rings he's got and the way he's played down the stretches of those seasons on to the SB says how good he is.... not his QBR...

and everybody on your list there? ... besides rivers..? .... ring(s)

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Meks

I think the two rings he's got and the way he's played down the stretches of those seasons on to the SB says how good he is.... not his QBR...

and everybody on your list there? ... besides rivers..? .... ring(s)

I'm not saying Manning is not good. I'm saying that he's inconsistent and a QB who is inconsistent is not elite. Period. When I view quarterbacking, I pay attention to skill. The level of skill is what defines an elite QB. Championships are what a team attains, not just the QB.

[tryst1540]

I'm not surprised that RG3 is doing as well as he's doing. Before the draft he was the player I wanted. I thought that he was the best player in the 2012 draft. I believed that he be very good right away and shock a lot of people.

The question is where do I rank him? This is a very complex question because there are a lot of things to consider. As a qb I rank him in the top ten. As a player I rank him in the top five. Passing the ball RG3 doesn't have as many yards as the top ten qbs mainly because he doesn't pass the ball nearly as much. However, he's very, very effective when he does. He's one of the most efficient passers in the NFL (4th rated). He's the most dangerous runner in the NFL. Combine with his elite passing ability he has world class speed to match. This makes him in my opinion one of the best players in the NFL right now.

I do not see a sophomore slump in his future. Next year he'll really know this offense and NFL defenses. I want everyone to bookmark this statement. Next season RG3 will be the best qb/player in the NFL.
There is no doubt in my mind that this guy is forreal. Every year we will see him get better and better.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Eli Manning is clutch indeed, but he's also inconsistent. QB rating in today's pass happy NFL is a measuring stick for how efficient and how good a QB is. Completion percentage, TD to INT ratio, accuracy is an indication of how truly skillful a QB is in today's NFL. When I see Peyton Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlesburger, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, RG3, and others attain high QBR I view that as being them being a skillful quarterback.

The disposition of "who gives a F*%k" only proves my point.

Well his brother has better number and most will agree he is a beter QB.Though ELi has proven that he can win the big game against the same team that has knocked his big brother out of the dance so many times. I'll take the SB number over all the other stats every time.

[Paintrain]

I'd say:
1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Brees
4. P. Manning
5. E. Manning
6. Roethlisberger
7. RGIII
8. Schaub
9. Ryan
10. Stafford
11. Romo
12. Luck
13. Freeman
14. Flacco
15. Rivers

He's probably not 'slump proof' but teams we face next year will have a whole season of tape on him as well as a potential rule change (eliminating chop blocks) that may impact his effectiveness. He probably will be a more 'traditional' QB next year, more dropbacks and less read-option than this season.

As for winning a SB, there are too many factors to definitively say yes or no but within 3 years we will be a SB contender and will remain so for a while.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'd say:
1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Brees
4. P. Manning
5. E. Manning
6. Roethlisberger
7. RGIII
8. Schaub
9. Ryan
10. Stafford
11. Romo
12. Luck
13. Freeman
14. Flacco
15. Rivers

He's probably not 'slump proof' but teams we face next year will have a whole season of tape on him as well as a potential rule change (eliminating chop blocks) that may impact his effectiveness. He probably will be a more 'traditional' QB next year, more dropbacks and less read-option than this season.

As for winning a SB, there are too many factors to definitively say yes or no but within 3 years we will be a SB contender and will remain so for a while.

So you think he is better than Flacco and Ryan? Wow.

[Dirtbag59]

I think a more relevant discussion is where does RG3 rank among all time rookie QB's of the modern era.

1. RG3 (at current pace) - 2012
2. Dan Marino - 1983
3. Ben Roethlisberger - 2004
4. Cam Newton - 2011
5. Matt Ryan - 2008

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think he is better than Flacco and Ryan? Wow.

Flacco and Ryan are inconsistent to me. Put Ryan on a bad team and I don't think he elevates the talent around him. Same with Flacco.

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Flacco and Ryan are inconsistent to me. Put Ryan on a bad team and I don't think he elevates the talent around him. Same with Flacco.

Yeah. No way Flacco or Ryan could carry an offense like Griffin carries the Skins.