Ravens at Redskins Post Game Thread (RG3 MRI Result-Sprained Knee)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This stat is more important in my opinion. We've left a great deal of points off the board due to our offenses inconsistency at converting 3rd downs and moving the chains.


Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen

Yes. 3rd downs have been problematic all year. 29th of 32 teams. RT @NC_Skins23 What's that 3rd down conversion percentage? Still horrible?

Ranking 29th out of 32 teams in 3rd down conversion is pathetic. Makes me mad to no end that this offense is so potent, but stalls out on 3rd downs. What really infuriates me is when I see a option pitch play on 3rd and short. Makes me want to drive to DC to choke Kyle.

Who gives a damn about stats? Would you rather have a team be 50% on 3rd down but average 17 points? The bottom line is the offense is scoring enough points to win games. 31 points yesterday should win most games!!! I think the issue with 3rd down is when teams know when we have to pass then that's the weakness. It's a combination of the line, RG3 feeling comfortable letting plays develop/not wanting to take off running, and the wr's hanging on the the ball. We have to remember that we have a 22 year old rookie playing QB. As time goes on he will develop into a better passer. His footwork in the pocket is a little off but that will improve. He's a gym rat. But again, look at this offense from last year to this year. It's night and day.But I agee, Kyle need to ditch the pitch!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Who gives a damn about stats? Would you rather have a team be 50% on 3rd down but average 17 points? The bottom line is the offense is scoring enough points to win games. 31 points yesterday should win most games!!! I think the issue with 3rd down is when teams know when we have to pass then that's the weakness. It's a combination of the line, RG3 feeling comfortable letting plays develop/not wanting to take off running, and the wr's hanging on the the ball. We have to remember that we have a 22 year old rookie playing QB. As time goes on he will develop into a better passer. His footwork in the pocket is a little off but that will improve. He's a gym rat. But again, look at this offense from last year to this year. It's night and day.But I agee, Kyle need to ditch the pitch!

It's not all on RGIII with those 3rd down conversions and I'm not suggesting it is. It's a mix of everything. Penalties, drops, play calling, bad passes, and so on. I understand not converting a 3rd and long on a high percentage, but it's the 3rd and shorts that we don't convert that simply drive me up the wall. Kyle often times likes to get cute with a 3rd and short only for it to backfire. I've seen several of those damn pitch plays on 3rd and short which chaps my ass.

In the end, more often or not if you aren't converting 3rd downs, you most likely are going to be on the losing end of a 60 minute match. So far, I think we've had some severe breaks go our way (fumble for TD, fumble not recovered in-bounds) which have been deciding factors in our winning. You can't expect luck that good to continue though so it's better we not rely on that luck.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It's not all on RGIII with those 3rd down conversions and I'm not suggesting it is. It's a mix of everything. Penalties, drops, play calling, bad passes, and so on. I understand not converting a 3rd and long on a high percentage, but it's the 3rd and shorts that we don't convert that simply drive me up the wall. Kyle often times likes to get cute with a 3rd and short only for it to backfire. I've seen several of those damn pitch plays on 3rd and short which chaps my ass.

In the end, more often or not if you aren't converting 3rd downs, you most likely are going to be on the losing end of a 60 minute match. So far, I think we've had some severe breaks go our way (fumble for TD, fumble not recovered in-bounds) which have been deciding factors in our winning. You can't expect luck that good to continue though so it's better we not rely on that luck.

I actually thought that we convert around 75% of 3rd and 5 or less, and it plummets to around 20% for 3rd and 6 and higher. I could have sworn I heard that somewhere.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I actually thought that we convert around 75% of 3rd and 5 or less, and it plummets to around 20% for 3rd and 6 and higher. I could have sworn I heard that somewhere.

Not sure of the breakdown actually. I think the penalties have a impact on why we end up on 3rd and long often. Which makes sense since we are one of the most penalized teams in the league. That isn't going to bode well for anybody.