Chris Cooley

[REDSKINS4ever]

mredskin:

^ The game has not passed him by. After he was on IR all last season, he lost 20-25 pounds in the offseason and got his knee healthy. Cooley has worked hard and I for one can't get my head around the position switch from WR to TE for Niles Paul. The TE rotation should be what it was in 2011 and in 2010 with Davis, Cooley, and Paulsen. But since Davis is on IR, then have Niles Paul play TE. Paul should be listed as a WR/TE because he's not a true TE because he drops to many damn passes.

Regardless of how Mike Shanahan likes to micro manage, Cooley should be involved with the offense more than he is.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

mredskin:

^ The game has not passed him by. After he was on IR all last season, he lost 20-25 pounds in the offseason and got his knee healthy. Cooley has worked hard and I for one can't get my head around the position switch from WR to TE for Niles Paul. The TE rotation should be what it was in 2011 and in 2010 with Davis, Cooley, and Paulsen. But since Davis is on IR, then have Niles Paul play TE. Paul should be listed as a WR/TE because he's not a true TE because he drops to many damn passes.

Regardless of how Mike Shanahan likes to micro manage, Cooley should be involved with the offense more than he is.

I lost 20 pounds last year - does that mean i should start for the redskins too? If Cooley were playing in practice at a high level, he would be starting. He obviously isnt. I know its sad to accept the fact that one of your favorite athletes is on the decline, but Cooley is. No matter how much you wish he were the player he used to be, he just isnt.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I lost 20 pounds last year - does that mean i should start for the redskins too? If Cooley were playing in practice at a high level, he would be starting. He obviously isnt. I know its sad to accept the fact that one of your favorite athletes is on the decline, but Cooley is. No matter how much you wish he were the player he used to be, he just isnt.

I didn't say he should be starting. I said he should be on the field with the offense more than he is.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I didn't say he should be starting. I said he should be on the field with the offense more than he is.

how many snaps does he get, how many do you want him to get?

*edit* trigger happy on the space bar: doe she > does he

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by los panda

how many snaps doe she get, how many do you want him to get?

She? What do you mean, she? lol

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

mredskin:

^ The game has not passed him by. After he was on IR all last season, he lost 20-25 pounds in the offseason and got his knee healthy. Cooley has worked hard and I for one can't get my head around the position switch from WR to TE for Niles Paul. The TE rotation should be what it was in 2011 and in 2010 with Davis, Cooley, and Paulsen. But since Davis is on IR, then have Niles Paul play TE. Paul should be listed as a WR/TE because he's not a true TE because he drops to many damn passes.

Regardless of how Mike Shanahan likes to micro manage, Cooley should be involved with the offense more than he is.

I love when we substitute our judgment for that of a coach that has won the super bowl. Do you really think Shanahan wouldn't play Cooley if he thought we could benefit? 31 teams in the league could have signed this former star to their roster and didn't. If he breaks into our starting TE rotation we're in really serious trouble...

And micro managing is what coaches do, so lets not get on MS for that.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

I love when we substitute our judgment for that of a coach that has won the super bowl. Do you really think Shanahan wouldn't play Cooley if he thought we could benefit? 31 teams in the league could have signed this former star to their roster and didn't. If he breaks into our starting TE rotation we're in really serious trouble...

And micro managing is what coaches do, so lets not get on MS for that.

So you're saying that Logan Paulsen is just as good as Antonio Gates, Martellis Bennett, Jason Witten, Growkoski for the Pats, Jimmy Graham, or Tony Gonzales? Come on, man. Gonzales is undoubtedly the oldest TE starting in the NFL and at 36 he hasn't lost anything. Mike Shanahan has rewarded the starting job to Paulsen because he's worked hard in practice and has been on the team for 3 years. But Logan Paulsen is still not better the Chris Cooley.

I disagree with everything you said.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

So you're saying that Logan Paulsen is just as good as Antonio Gates, Martellis Bennett, Jason Witten, Growkoski for the Pats, Jimmy Graham, or Tony Gonzales? Come on, man. Gonzales is undoubtedly the oldest TE starting in the NFL and at 36 he hasn't lost anything. Mike Shanahan has rewarded the starting job to Paulsen because he's worked hard in practice and has been on the team for 3 years. But Logan Paulsen is still not better the Chris Cooley.

I disagree with everything you said.

what? where did you get that from?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by los panda

what? where did you get that from?

When we think of starting TEs in the NFL, we look at the most productive. I simply compared Paulsen to the most productive and he dwarfs all of them in retrospect.

That's where I got that from.....

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

So you're saying that Logan Paulsen is just as good as Antonio Gates, Martellis Bennett, Jason Witten, Growkoski for the Pats, Jimmy Graham, or Tony Gonzales? Come on, man. Gonzales is undoubtedly the oldest TE starting in the NFL and at 36 he hasn't lost anything. Mike Shanahan has rewarded the starting job to Paulsen because he's worked hard in practice and has been on the team for 3 years. But Logan Paulsen is still not better the Chris Cooley.

I disagree with everything you said.

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Side related note: Antonio Gates has lost a lot. Even with the Chargers winning big against Pittsburgh, he was dropping easy passes and just doesn't look like his old self.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

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Side related note: Antonio Gates has lost a lot. Even with the Chargers winning big against Pittsburgh, he was dropping easy passes and just doesn't look like his old self.

I mentioned other tight ends besides Antonio Gates. Paulsen is not on any of their levels, I'm afraid. He's serviceable but he's no Witten or Gronkowski.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I mentioned other tight ends besides Antonio Gates. Paulsen is not on any of their levels, I'm afraid. He's serviceable but he's no Witten or Gronkowski.

I was confused b/c I don't think anyone said that Paulsen was at that level. Although, Paulsen is in his second year so he could very well become more than a serviceable player. Personally, I think he's playing better than the shell of a player that Gates has become.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I was confused b/c I don't think anyone said that Paulsen was at that level. Although, Paulsen is in his second year so he could very well become more than a serviceable player. Personally, I think he's playing better than the shell of a player that Gates has become.

that's what i'm saying

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

So you're saying that Logan Paulsen is just as good as Antonio Gates, Martellis Bennett, Jason Witten, Growkoski for the Pats, Jimmy Graham, or Tony Gonzales? Come on, man. Gonzales is undoubtedly the oldest TE starting in the NFL and at 36 he hasn't lost anything. Mike Shanahan has rewarded the starting job to Paulsen because he's worked hard in practice and has been on the team for 3 years. But Logan Paulsen is still not better the Chris Cooley.

I disagree with everything you said.

Paulsen is better than Cooley doing what Shanahan wants done out there, or he'd be playing. Cooley hasn't done squat for years now, and our sentimental feelings about Chris won't change that.

And I have no idea why you're dragging other teams' TEs into this discussion. I'm very comfortable with your disagreeing with every thing I said. You're entitled to your opinion -- but I still think you're wrong.

Cooley's done. I hope he goes out in a blaze of glory against the Cowboys, but he will not be on an NFL roster in 2013.

And I love Chris Cooley the Redskin.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

Paulsen is better than Cooley doing what Shanahan wants done out there, or he'd be playing. Cooley hasn't done squat for years now, and our sentimental feelings about Chris won't change that.

And I have no idea why you're dragging other teams' TEs into this discussion. I'm very comfortable with your disagreeing with every thing I said. You're entitled to your opinion -- but I still think you're wrong.

Cooley's done. I hope he goes out in a blaze of glory against the Cowboys, but he will not be on an NFL roster in 2013.

And I love Chris Cooley the Redskin.

Cooley's been doing a good job at blocking, and I don't see the need to have more youth at a position when your two best players (Davis and Paulsen) are in their mid-twenties. Maybe Paul and Cooley will battle it out for that final roster spot. Other than being a good special teams player, I don't think Paul has done much to wow anyone.