Skins 38 Browns 21 post game thread

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

i dont want to hear anything else about the coaching staff. They are fully responsible for this turn around. Today proved it. No one deserves more credit than Jim Haslett.

Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

LINK

We're still a bottom third defense, IMO.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

LINKWe're still a bottom third defense, IMO.

Our defense has been much better since the bye, even before the bye you could see the play was becoming better. there is a massive difference between 20-30 points, you know that right?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Our defense has been much better since the bye, even before the bye you could see the play was becoming better. there is a massive difference between 20-30 points, you know that right?

Absolutely. We might not be elite, but we're leaning more towards the defense we had last year. I was hating on Haslett all season, but he really is seeming to come into his own. I think with a couple with Orakpo and Carriker coming back, and a few more pieces on defense, we're going to be a team to fear for fears.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Our defense has been much better since the bye, even before the bye you could see the play was becoming better. there is a massive difference between 20-30 points, you know that right?

I'm just saying, you could book our D to give up 20-30 points on any given Sunday. We're not going to shut down anybody, outside of a hot stinky mess of an offense like Philly's a couple weeks ago.

We're on this playoff run because of our offense, not our defense. Would be nice to be great on both sides of the ball, but I don't think that's the case here.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I'm just saying, you could book our D to give up 20-30 points on any given Sunday. We're not going to shut down anybody, outside of a hot stinky mess of an offense like Philly's a couple weeks ago.

We're on this playoff run because of our offense, not our defense. Would be nice to be great on both sides of the ball, but I don't think that's the case here.

Yeah I agree our offense is carrying the D, but the play on defense side of the ball has been better since the beginning of the year. Haslett been scheming well and his halftime adjustments have been on point. He was dealt a bad hand with that secondary and 2 very important pass rushers. Ive been surprised.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I'm just saying, you could book our D to give up 20-30 points on any given Sunday. We're not going to shut down anybody, outside of a hot stinky mess of an offense like Philly's a couple weeks ago.

We're on this playoff run because of our offense, not our defense. Would be nice to be great on both sides of the ball, but I don't think that's the case here.

We're on this run because were playing well on offense, defense, and special teams. Just think of what today would be like without the turnovers?

No team that wins 5 in a row wins them because of one side of the ball. The defense compliments our offense being that they are really opportunistic.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Swarley

We're on this run because were playing well on offense, defense, and special teams. Just think of what today would be like without the turnovers?

No team that wins 5 in a row wins them because of one side of the ball. The defense compliments our offense being that they are really opportunistic.

Just in recent years the Patriots and Packers have won with just offense, even more dramatically than we have.

Not that I like that, I'd prefer being more balanced. Also, I agree that I'd take turnovers and a middle of the road defense, but currently we're middle of the road in turnovers (around 12th), and a high "bottom third" in overall defense.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

We're on this playoff run because of our offense, not our defense. Would be nice to be great on both sides of the ball, but I don't think that's the case here.

Oh I couldn't disagree more. Our offense has been brining it all year. It's our defense that stepped up. By no means has it been great but it has gotten the job done when needed dung the streak.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

LINK

We're still a bottom third defense, IMO.

are you not considering the talent level he has at his disposal? Specifically in the secondary.

and yeah there's a very big difference from 20 - 30 points.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

LINK

We're still a bottom third defense, IMO.

I know...right?
Haslett's holding them back.....

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I know...right?
Haslett's holding them back.....

LOL. Good jinx. Hope it works.

Maybe Shanahan needs to say he's still evaluating the defense....:FIREdevil