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Old 12-21-2012, 12:41 PM   #1
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Rob Jackson instincts/football IQ might be better than Orakpo's. That seemed impossible at the beginning of the season. Jackson isn't a physical freak but could eventually be the better overall player. I'd keep them both still and switch them up. Time to push Orakpo anyway.
Jackson has had moments, but judging from the lack of pass rush this entire season Orakpo's pass rush is more important and vital to the team.
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Jackson has had moments, but judging from the lack of pass rush this entire season Orakpo's pass rush is more important and vital to the team.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #3
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Jackson has had moments, but judging from the lack of pass rush this entire season Orakpo's pass rush is more important and vital to the team.
I disagree and our win-loss record does not reflect that.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:58 PM   #4
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Jackson has had moments, but judging from the lack of pass rush this entire season Orakpo's pass rush is more important and vital to the team.
true, but you gotta keep both. Jackson is a free agent and has proven to be a great backup/depth player who is excellent in pass rush packages. Gotta keep Jackson at this point, his play making ability has been game changing. Cant let that leave.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:55 PM   #5
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true, but you gotta keep both. Jackson is a free agent and has proven to be a great backup/depth player who is excellent in pass rush packages. Gotta keep Jackson at this point, his play making ability has been game changing. Cant let that leave.
I agree keep both. I still think Orakpo is a better overall player so if I had to choose between the two I would choose Orakpo. Jackson is better at making plays in coverage, Orakpo from what I have seen is better at everything else.
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Rob Jackson instincts/football IQ might be better than Orakpo's. That seemed impossible at the beginning of the season. Jackson isn't a physical freak but could eventually be the better overall player. I'd keep them both still and switch them up. Time to push Orakpo anyway.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:43 PM   #7
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #8
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

I'm not as high on Brian Orakpo as some. He's a phenomenal athlete, but his results on the field have left me wanting. Not saying we should trade, bench him, or anything else. I'm just not as high on him as most. And considering where Rob Jackson was drafted, we're definitely getting more bang for our buck from a business perspective.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:57 PM   #9
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I disagree and our win-loss record does not reflect that.
Our pass rush does though. We have excelled on offense and buckled down on defense , but the pass rush has been inept.
Edit: i do wish that both Rak and Kerrigan had another move. Both are very one dimensional in their pass rush technique
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Our pass rush does though. We have excelled on offense and buckled down on defense , but the pass rush has been inept.
Edit: i do wish that both Rak and Kerrigan had another move. Both are very one dimensional in their pass rush technique
An interception is better than a sack. Rob Jackson has three, one going for a TD. His sack and strip of Flacco was a critical play.
You can also consider that the defense has "buckled down" partly due to Jackson heady play. He is a smart player.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:10 PM   #11
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An interception is better than a sack. Rob Jackson has three, one going for a TD. His sack and strip of Flacco was a critical play.
You can also consider that the defense has "buckled down" partly due to Jackson heady play. He is a smart player.
Jackson has excelled exactly where Orakpo has immensley struggled, out on pass plays. Jackson has value on the defense, like to see them both on the field for the future.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:02 PM   #12
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An interception is better than a sack. Rob Jackson has three, one going for a TD. His sack and strip of Flacco was a critical play.
You can also consider that the defense has "buckled down" partly due to Jackson heady play. He is a smart player.
He is a good role player, I do not think he can be a long term starter though. A single interception is better than a sack. But a consistent pass rusher through an entire is better than a linebacker who has three interceptions and makes flashy plays. I still think we should keep them both but to think that Jackson will replace Orakpo's impact vs. the run and vs. the pass is far fetched at best. There is a reason the pass defense is so inept, and a huge reason is lack of any pass rush. Redskins have improved slightly but we just improved to terrible to bad. It is not like the Redskins all of a sudden are a top tier defense with Jackson's presence. Redskins are still a well below average defense and Orakpo and Carriker's presence on the d-line has proven to be essential to the success of the defense.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:16 PM   #13
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An interception is better than a sack. Rob Jackson has three, one going for a TD. His sack and strip of Flacco was a critical play.
You can also consider that the defense has "buckled down" partly due to Jackson heady play. He is a smart player.
Im not denying that Jackson has been impressive, but opposing qb's just have way to much time.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:26 PM   #14
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

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Rob Jackson instincts/football IQ might be better than Orakpo's. That seemed impossible at the beginning of the season. Jackson isn't a physical freak but could eventually be the better overall player. I'd keep them both still and switch them up. Time to push Orakpo anyway.
But I thought proof of the Shanny's failures was that they weren't developing any late round defensive talent?

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Old 12-21-2012, 01:49 PM   #15
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But I thought proof of the Shanny's failures was that they weren't developing any late round defensive talent?

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Jackson was here before Shanny.
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