Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think what is lost in the Jets discussion is how much of a terrible job Mike Tanenbaum (sp?) has done as a GM.

I think the entire office and coaching staff needs to be removed. Clean Slate.

[MTK]

Man, the Jets get more hype and talk these days than the Cowboys.

I don't get it.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Man, the Jets get more hype and talk these days than the Cowboys.

I don't get it.

if you tebow it, they will come

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Man, the Jets get more hype and talk these days than the Cowboys.

I don't get it.

Because of Tebow and people love to hate Rex Ryan.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I watched a press conference today with Rex Ryan trying to explain why he went with McElroy as the starter for this week. He sounded like he had no confidence in his decision and generally came accross as a bumbling idiot. He doesn't strike me as head coach material.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

YEAAAHH !! EXACTLY !! ... Wait ? ... Didn't that kinda just happen last week ???

Seems like a lot of people are ready to say cousins is going to be a top notch player in the league and will always be able to step in when needed if we keep him. Consider me the minority on this one, but the league has been full of players that looked good in a small sample size. I'm not sure his trade value will ever be higher than it is right now even if he does turn into a decent player.

I would trade him if we could get a pick in the top 45 or a borderline probowl player.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by VegasSkinsFan

Seems like a lot of people are ready to say cousins is going to be a top notch player in the league and will always be able to step in when needed if we keep him. Consider me the minority on this one, but the league has been full of players that looked good in a small sample size. I'm not sure his trade value will ever be higher than it is right now even if he does turn into a decent player.

I would trade him if we could get a pick in the top 45 or a borderline probowl player.

And to clarify, I do think cousins will be a good player in the league.

[Dirtbag59]

NFL's 5 best trade chips
Kirk Cousins, others could bring solid returns in an offseason deal
Updated: December 21, 2012, 1:32 PM ET
By Chris Sprow | ESPN Insider


Kirk Cousins


Cousins
Why you shop him: It's absolutely fair to say Cousins means plenty to the Redskins. RG III has more carries (112) than any other NFL QB, five more than Cam Newton, and in one fewer game. He's had two scares this season, and his health will be a concern going forward. But an evaluator who has worked with Cousins told me, "He could start for four to five teams now, and that number will grow." The Redskins know it, and will have to test the market given two factors. One, a healthy RG III means a Redskins team that is ready now to challenge deep into the playoffs -- if they can fill holes. But the trade to get RG III gutted future drafts and they need picks to fill those holes, particularly in the secondary. Two, the need for a starter is about to shrink -- five rookie QBs are starting and playing well, reducing the market significantly from where it was 10 months ago. If Arizona, the Jets and Kansas City find solutions at QB for 2013, the Redskins' current leverage is gutted. Third, Mike Shanahan's system can be run effectively by a veteran backup in spurts when needed, one the Redskins hope they don't need. Cousins isn't required.


What makes sense: We suspected Cousins was a play for future trade value to recoup picks when he was picked. Given where the Redskins are, with the playoffs in sight and Cousins' stock soaring, could that plan have gone better? They need to listen, and aim for a deal built around a second-round pick. Maybe two of them.

Fit: The Jets or Chiefs make sense.

[skinsfaninok]

Sorry but I don't want to trade kc this offseason but hey if they offer a 2nd I guess we have to

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Sorry but I don't want to trade kc this offseason but hey if they offer a 2nd I guess we have to

Until RG3 makes a full evolution to being a pocket passer and better QB's enter the league I'm very hesitant to give up Cousins. Now granted I pointed out before that we're already seeing the evolution of RG3 towards pocket passer as illustrated again by the following stats.

First 6 games: 7 TD Passes 6 Rushing TD's
Last 7 Games: 13 TD Passes, 0 Rushing TD's.

However he's still using his feet enough to scare the life out of us no less then 3 or 4 times a game. And obviously he's been injured since Baltimore due to a freak accident on a scramble.

Either way the upcoming shortage of passers coming into the league is very worrisome. Both in 2013 and 2014.

Sure it's great for pumping up Cousins value but until RG3 shows he can stay healthy for long stretches we need him more then a 2nd and or 3rd round pick. I can live without another Jenkins and LeRibeus though I wouldn't object to more players like them.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Until RG3 makes a full evolution to being a pocket passer and better QB's enter the league I'm very hesitant to give up Cousins. Now granted I pointed out before that we're already seeing the evolution of RG3 towards pocket passer as illustrated again by the following stats.

First 6 games: 7 TD Passes 6 Rushing TD's
Last 7 Games: 13 TD Passes, 0 Rushing TD's.

However he's still using his feet enough to scare the life out of us no less then 3 or 4 times a game. And obviously he's been injured since Baltimore due to a freak accident on a scramble.

Either way the upcoming shortage of passers coming into the league is very worrisome. Both in 2013 and 2014.

Sure it's great for pumping up Cousins value but until RG3 shows he can stay healthy for long stretches we need him more then a 2nd and or 3rd round pick. I can live without another Jenkins and LeRibeus though I wouldn't object to more players like them.

Very good post. What's the old saying? The 2nd most important position on the team is back up QB. It's a good feeling to now know that we have two young guys that have shown that they can play the position at a high level. We need Cousins and hopefully he stays around for a few more years.

[CultBrennan59]

Kyle Shanahan-Kirk Cousins package could entice many teams - NFL.com

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Kyle Shanahan-Kirk Cousins package could entice many teams - NFL.com

Alright, it's time to re-up on Kyle before all this speculation turns into true interest...

[skinsfaninok]

Y would anyone leave RG3

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Y would anyone leave RG3

Yep. Exactly. No need to leave the leagues new star. Only QBs I would think of that are comparabile would be Luck, Brees (should Payton leave) and Wilson, because Aaron Rodgers, Brady, and Manning. But all those guys are good with their HC's and won't get them fired anytime soon.