Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

[punch it in]

My name is Punch, and im a Shanafan. Admitting it is half the battle. Lol.

I think its pretty apparent that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon now. Where were all you guys when me goat gtripp and mechanix were saying "be patient"?
On a serious note everyone was excited when Vinnie left. When after two years and 9 weeks you have yet to be on the way to winning atleast as many games as Zorn did i think that was reasonable cause for doubt. Its easy now to say " i knew this was coming ( the wins) , as opposed to admitting that you might have been thinking the same thing as we were - "oh shit". I personally stated all year that when he wins he will garner my praise. I feel no shame in being a "bandwagon fan" of the coaching staff. I was never a "bandwagon fan" of my team. Would be wearing my jersey every sunday no matter what.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

My name is Punch, and im a Shanafan. Admitting it is half the battle. Lol.

I think its pretty apparent that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon now. Where were all you guys when me goat gtripp and mechanix were saying "be patient"?
On a serious note everyone was excited when Vinnie left. When after two years and 9 weeks you have yet to be on the way to winning atleast as many games as Zorn did i think that was reasonable cause for doubt. Its easy now to say " i knew this was coming ( the wins) , as opposed to admitting that you might have been thinking the same thing as we were - "oh shit". I personally stated all year that when he wins he will garner my praise. I feel no shame in being a "bandwagon fan" of the coaching staff. I was never a "bandwagon fan" of my team. Would be wearing my jersey every sunday no matter what.

I don't think I can express how much the bolded statement aggravates me. In hindsight, we know that Zorn's best days were in his first 8 games, when he won 6 of his total. We also know that those first 8 games were Zorn staying with what JG had built. Shanahan wasn't even trying to take what he had been given and win with it. He took what he was given, threw a whole bunch out, and started seeing who was going to be his kinda guys. Saying that Zorn and Shanahan had the same win total completely ignores the reality of how the two win totals were achieved. end rant

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think I can express how much the bolded statement aggravates me. In hindsight, we know that Zorn's best days were in his first 8 games, when he won 6 of his total. We also know that those first 8 games were Zorn staying with what JG had built. Shanahan wasn't even trying to take what he had been given and win with it. He took what he was given, threw a whole bunch out, and started seeing who was going to be his kinda guys. Saying that Zorn and Shanahan had the same win total completely ignores the reality of how the two win totals were achieved. end rant

It is a well thought out rant and I believe that your theory fits. I could buy that logic even if it weren't the truth. It makes too much sense not to be though.

Hypothetical question if the team were to improve on paper, but start off horrible next season and not even make the playoffs, then what would your assessment of Shannahan be then? Would you allow him to stay for his fifth year or would you be looking for different options?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Angry

It is a well thought out rant and I believe that your theory fits. I could buy that logic even if it weren't the truth. It makes too much sense not to be though.

Hypothetical question if the team were to improve on paper, but start off horrible next season and not even make the playoffs, then what would your assessment of Shannahan be then? Would you allow him to stay for his fifth year or would you be looking for different options?

We play the NFC North, and AFC West, as well as one NFC West and NFC South team. If we start off horrible again next year(less than .500 after 6 games), I think I would backtrack some. Having shown movement in the right direction, getting some players back, and playing what should be a similar, or easier, schedule we should see a more consistent team.

That said, I think we will be a 9+ win team(probably 10+) for the next 3 years, given the AFC and NFC rotation we will see.

[Bucket]

Just wanted to point out that I said be patient and give him his 5 years like he said it would take. One day, this board will take everything I say seriously Since im barely ever wrong.

HTTR

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Just wanted to point out that I said be patient and give him his 5 years like he said it would take. One day, this board will take everything I say seriously Since im barely ever wrong.

HTTR

He is starting to deliver after 2.875. Technically he still has two seasons left after this one.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think I can express how much the bolded statement aggravates me. In hindsight, we know that Zorn's best days were in his first 8 games, when he won 6 of his total. We also know that those first 8 games were Zorn staying with what JG had built. Shanahan wasn't even trying to take what he had been given and win with it. He took what he was given, threw a whole bunch out, and started seeing who was going to be his kinda guys. Saying that Zorn and Shanahan had the same win total completely ignores the reality of how the two win totals were achieved. end rant

That is exactly right. It ignores that Shanahan and Allen pretty much built this teams roster with their players.

The young talent you have and the way your team is playing (quality of play) is some times more important than your record. If I played 8 games with this current roster against:
1) Patriots
2) Green Bay
3) 49ers
4) Giants
5) Texans
6) Falcons
7) Denver
and we lost more games than we won, I would still be happy. Because it was against the best teams in the NFL and I know our team is young and promising.
But if I played 8 weak ass teams and won them all with Zorn's old weak ass roster I would not be happy because our play on the field and our players were weak.
Win loss does not always tell the whole story. You are only as good as the teams you play.