Mara Karma

[mooby]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Giants were more lucky than good. I'm not attempting to discredit their success, but they were a 7-7 team going into week 16. They soundly beat Atlanta, then traveled to GB the following week to face a Packers team that played poorly on offense and pitiful on defense. Then the second of the two Kyle Williams punt return fumbles in SF provided the NYG to enter into the SB to face a New England team with a last ranked defense that they came back to beat in the last moments of the game. Yeah, the Giants won SB 46 but then again a lucky team is not a good team. The 2011 NYG were the only Super Bowl champion in NFL history to be outscored by their opponents during the regular season. That's hardly a good team......

Right, doesn't anyone remember the Giants tripping and falling onto the Lombardi Trophy? That's the way I remember it too.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by mooby

Right, doesn't anyone remember the Giants tripping and falling onto the Lombardi Trophy? That's the way I remember it too.

Well, they did on the way there....

[skinsfaninok]

We would have swept their sorry asses this year too if it wasn't for a blown coverage with 1:00 left. It's all good we have RG3 and a young offense to go with him for years to come. Skins will take control of the nfc east real soon. Hell they already have Started pretty much

[mitch e]

what goes around comes around. HTTR

[ethat001]

He took away 18 million.

I'm still hoping against hope for the other 18 million to return by an appeal of some sort this offseason. Then i'd like to screw the mofo by signing someone off their team with the money.. Kenny Phillips is a FA in 2013...

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I think you're referring to rg3 as black is kind of inappropriate, especially given the recent espn first take controversy. Rg3s skin color is completely irrelevant. Why do people have to keep commenting on it. I don't see colts fans referring to luck as "white Jesus."

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think you're referring to rg3 as black is kind of inappropriate, especially given the recent espn first take controversy. Rg3s skin color is completely irrelevant. Why do people have to keep commenting on it. I don't see colts fans referring to luck as "white Jesus."

Noting someones Blackness isn't derogatory or inappropriate, unless you follow that with something derogatory or inappropriate. If anything the Jesus usage would be considered sacrilege to some haha.

Until we are one color it will be mentioned often.

On topic i have tons of Giants fans in my family and have really been enjoying the last couple weeks. How Mara was able to influence these penalties at all i just don't understand.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

How Mara was able to influence these penalties at all i just don't understand.

He did'nt as many around the NFL know but I do understand the perception.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He did'nt as many around the NFL know but I do understand the perception.

Mara did influence those penalties, like he influenced the "delay of game penalty" that everyone agrees should be overturned after the Lions debacle.

You should read these links.

WHY JOHN MARA CHEATED

“Ask John Mara,” the executive said.

Mara influencing other stuff too

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Mara did influence those penalties, like he influenced the "delay of game penalty" that everyone agrees should be overturned after the Lions debacle.

You should read these links.

WHY JOHN MARA CHEATED

“Ask John Mara,” the executive said.

Mara influencing other stuff too

1)Extrem Skins,really?
2)The opinion of a Washington Redskin executive
3)All owners have things that might best suit their team they want discussed.Jerry Jones and the Horse collar rule comes to mind.
Sorry, still no proof.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

Noting someones Blackness isn't derogatory or inappropriate, unless you follow that with something derogatory or inappropriate. If anything the Jesus usage would be considered sacrilege to some haha.

Until we are one color it will be mentioned often.

On topic i have tons of Giants fans in my family and have really been enjoying the last couple weeks. How Mara was able to influence these penalties at all i just don't understand.

Noting someones whiteness would be considered inappropriate by most people, so doing the same for blackness is the same thing. On topic, Mara is Chairman of the NFL Management committee so, its part of his job in that role to influence pentalties. From our perspective, since were in the same division, he should have recused himself. However, given that the rest of the owners and the commish agreed to the penalties, i dont think that necessarily would have changed anything.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

On topic, Mara is Chairman of the NFL Management committee so, its part of his job in that role to influence pentalties. From our perspective, since were in the same division, he should have recused himself. However, given that the rest of the owners and the commish agreed to the penalties, i dont think that necessarily would have changed anything.

Mara is the head of the commitee there is nothing to say he "influence" anything.I fully understand your and Skin fans perspective on this whole matter but I disagree with him having to "recused" himself from the proceedings.If he does that then the Eagles owner must also do it,everyteam is represented .Were the penalties right or wrong I don't know,none of us do becuase we don't know what really happen.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Mara is the head of the commitee there is nothing to say he "influence" anything.I fully understand your and Skin fans perspective on this whole matter but I disagree with him having to "recused" himself from the proceedings.If he does that then the Eagles owner must also do it,everyteam is represented .Were the penalties right or wrong I don't know,none of us do becuase we don't know what really happen.

Giantone, you seem like a bright guy and I for one enjoy your partipation on this forum.

However, to say that the chair of any committee doesn't have significant influence on that committee is just wrong. The chair sets the agenda, and will have a significant effect on the committee's decision-making process. As suggested earlier, Mara should have recused himself from this issue, and I, for one, believe the outcome would have been different without his evident bias against competitors in his division.

And I realize you, and Giants fans in general don't get our strong reaction to all of this. But then, we're the one's getting screwed here...

I've never agreed more with Daniel Snyder on any issue by the way. And that karma thing sucks, doesn't it?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Mara is the head of the commitee there is nothing to say he "influence" anything.I fully understand your and Skin fans perspective on this whole matter but I disagree with him having to "recused" himself from the proceedings.If he does that then the Eagles owner must also do it,everyteam is represented .Were the penalties right or wrong I don't know,none of us do becuase we don't know what really happen.

Its obvious that Mara was, at minimum, overly zealous, in trying to punish the skins for failing to participate in illegal collusion. Its fitting that Mara did everything he could to hurt the skins and cowboys and now his team probably wont make the playoffs.

[mooby]

I don't want to be the guy who bursts anyone's bubble, but we really shouldn't count our chickens before they hatch. I'll breathe a little easier if we clinch on Sunday.