Black Monday: NFL Coaches and Executives Carousel

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

why would we say yes? Why not just give him more $ and an Assistant HC title to stay here? I cant imagine Shanahan wouldnt want to keep him.

The man obviously doesnt want to be a st coach his entire life, its the rite thing to do.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

The man obviously doesnt want to be a st coach his entire life, its the rite thing to do.

Im confused. I thought he was going to Pittsburg to be a Special Teams Coach

[mooby]

Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn

Headline sums it up. An interesting nugget nonetheless.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mooby

Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn

Headline sums it up. An interesting nugget nonetheless.

Hilarious! I love it.


Whatever reason Dan has for firing Vinny is a good one to me...although the axe came down about 10 years late.

Myers also reported that Jim Fassel was so convinced he was getting the job in early 2008 that “he started to gather his belongings in Phoenix for the move to Washington.” But fans were rebelling, and Zorn wound up with the gig.

Look everyone, it was OUR FAULT that Zorn was hired!

I was for Fassel over Zorn. My choice was Gregg Williams at the time...I have to tell the truth!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn

Headline sums it up. An interesting nugget nonetheless.

Snyder cracks me up. It's not the GM's job to let him know Zorn isn't qualified. The guy had only been a QB coach. Never even called plays or coordinated an NFL offense. You don't need a GM to tell you that. Snyder's just shifting the blame. It starts with you. Fassell was the more qualified guy, Gregg Williams was the more qualified guy. You hired neither cause you and Vinny wanted a puppet. Hopefully those days are gone forever.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder cracks me up. It's not the GM's job to let him know Zorn isn't qualified. The guy had only been a QB coach. Never even called plays or coordinated an NFL offense. You don't need a GM to tell you that. Snyder's just shifting the blame. It starts with you. Fassell was the more qualified guy, Gregg Williams was the more qualified guy. You hired neither cause you and Vinny wanted a puppet. Hopefully those days are gone forever.

If your GM hires the wrong guy, I'd say that's ultimately on the GM. Should Snyder have over ruled him on hiring Zorn? I thought we want Snyder out of making decisions like that?

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If your GM hires the wrong guy, I'd say that's ultimately on the GM. Should Snyder have over ruled him on hiring Zorn? I thought we want Snyder out of making decisions like that?

I agree its on the GM, its not his job to over rule the GM on a coaching hire. However, he rehired Vinny, which for me leads to more questions. Whats really different here, except for personnel decisions. Is the game day experience better? The field? Customer Service? Are they run top to bottom like a first class organization? A friend of mine used to valet cars, he remembers Snyder...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

I agree its on the GM, its not his job to over rule the GM on a coaching hire. However, he rehired Vinny, which for me leads to more questions. Whats really different here, except for personnel decisions. Is the game day experience better? The field? Customer Service? Are they run top to bottom like a first class organization? A friend of mine used to valet cars, he remembers Snyder...

Keeping Vinny around for all those years is definitely on Snyder, no doubt.

Allen seems to be the perfect buffer between Snyder the team, and I think Allen has done a great job in many of the off the field aspects of improving relations with alumni and overall community outreach. Hope he stays around a long time.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If your GM hires the wrong guy, I'd say that's ultimately on the GM. Should Snyder have over ruled him on hiring Zorn? I thought we want Snyder out of making decisions like that?

SIR.....I prefer to pick and choose my truth's..........preferably out of context.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If your GM hires the wrong guy, I'd say that's ultimately on the GM. Should Snyder have over ruled him on hiring Zorn? I thought we want Snyder out of making decisions like that?

Yes he should have over ruled him cause it's common sense. If you have Gregg Williams or Jim Fassel sitting there wanting to coach your team, and then you have a quirky career QB coach sitting there, who are you going to hire? Sorry but the QB coach isn't even in the running. They both wanted a puppet and they got one. He should have fired the GM for even suggesting Zorn.

[Evilgrin]

Heard Smith's parents live their, and are not in the greatest of health?

Also, can Snyder then fire himself for letting himself hire Cerrato twice?

[SkinzWin]

Apparently Rob Ryan's "I will be out of work for 5 minutes" quote didn't pan out how he thought…. Shmuck

Rob Ryan won't be St. Louis Rams' defensive coordinator -- Jeff Fisher - ESPN

[Monkeydad]

Gregg the Bounty Hunter and the Rams would have been a perfect fit for each other. Remember all of the dirty, cheap tactics they used against us this year? Granted they probably only went that far because the replacement refs were allowing them, but that's definitely a bunch of players who would have bought into Williams' "scheme".

[SmootSmack]

I mean the truth is Snyder let Cerrato hire Zorn because Cerrato's ego was too fragile to handle an established HC

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I mean the truth is Snyder let Cerrato hire Zorn because Cerrato's ego was too fragile to handle an established HC

That screams bad judgement??? Back to my point earlier.